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<blockquote data-quote="Bada-Bing!" data-source="post: 1109135" data-attributes="member: 70552"><p>I agree with most of what you said (the election part is long overdue) but the whole point of an upper chamber is to scrutinise and hold the HOC to account. A major problem with our and most parliamentary democracies is the executive branch sits and dominates the lower house.</p><p></p><p>No HOC is going to vote for a chamber whose authority is going to be stepped on and avoid deadlock like what happens in US when Congress don't agree.</p><p></p><p>Although Starmer says he will abolish it - what role it will play and powers (limited) to compliment HOC. And that boils down to proper scrutiny of legislation and hence I agree with Die Mole's "professional expertise" chamber. If you have a PR system for upper chamber it'll most likely suit a list system IMO.</p><p></p><p>Still, the larger question in all this is really the reform of the HOC which is the big turkey in the room.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bada-Bing!, post: 1109135, member: 70552"] I agree with most of what you said (the election part is long overdue) but the whole point of an upper chamber is to scrutinise and hold the HOC to account. A major problem with our and most parliamentary democracies is the executive branch sits and dominates the lower house. No HOC is going to vote for a chamber whose authority is going to be stepped on and avoid deadlock like what happens in US when Congress don’t agree. Although Starmer says he will abolish it - what role it will play and powers (limited) to compliment HOC. And that boils down to proper scrutiny of legislation and hence I agree with Die Mole’s “professional expertise” chamber. If you have a PR system for upper chamber it’ll most likely suit a list system IMO. Still, the larger question in all this is really the reform of the HOC which is the big turkey in the room. [/QUOTE]
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