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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce_ma gooshvili" data-source="post: 1124275" data-attributes="member: 74121"><p>As someone who stands up for Paddy Jackson's right to be treated as a citizen with no criminal convictions and potentially innocent of anything other than poor judgement, even I think 8.5 years is severe, even if they evidenced she helped orchestrate the campaign of racist hate (I'm not sure she was involved in that, its not a case I've followed).</p><p></p><p>As I've mentioned before here, research showed 8% of rape allegations in the UK are identified after investigation as being invalid and being withdrawn (the only reason to withdraw is to avoid an 'attempt to pervert' charge). Whether it's actually 1% or 10%, my point is this is not infrequent and those responsible routinely don't even get investigated for essentially the same crime. Let alone charged. Let alone sentenced to 8.5 years. Sure, this horrible individual had an extreme case of premeditation that puts it right to the top end of the scale. But any false allegation of rape directed at an individual is absolutely horrific and potentially life destroying for the recipient.</p><p></p><p>It's always the same with the law. If your offence garners media attention a judge will more likely than not hand out a disproportionate sentence.</p><p></p><p>On a tangent, apologies if I posted this one before. I still can't believe the polis up here found the backbone to comment on matter in a factual way that can debunk a social media myth.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60069229[/URL]</p><p></p><p>I have a friend who works in a police forensic lab and they advise spiking is as close to non-existent as you can get, let alone some weird way of doing it with a syringe. But say a word about 'avoid mixing drinks' and you'll have the natives at your door with pitchforks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce_ma gooshvili, post: 1124275, member: 74121"] As someone who stands up for Paddy Jackson's right to be treated as a citizen with no criminal convictions and potentially innocent of anything other than poor judgement, even I think 8.5 years is severe, even if they evidenced she helped orchestrate the campaign of racist hate (I'm not sure she was involved in that, its not a case I've followed). As I've mentioned before here, research showed 8% of rape allegations in the UK are identified after investigation as being invalid and being withdrawn (the only reason to withdraw is to avoid an 'attempt to pervert' charge). Whether it's actually 1% or 10%, my point is this is not infrequent and those responsible routinely don't even get investigated for essentially the same crime. Let alone charged. Let alone sentenced to 8.5 years. Sure, this horrible individual had an extreme case of premeditation that puts it right to the top end of the scale. But any false allegation of rape directed at an individual is absolutely horrific and potentially life destroying for the recipient. It's always the same with the law. If your offence garners media attention a judge will more likely than not hand out a disproportionate sentence. On a tangent, apologies if I posted this one before. I still can't believe the polis up here found the backbone to comment on matter in a factual way that can debunk a social media myth. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60069229[/URL] I have a friend who works in a police forensic lab and they advise spiking is as close to non-existent as you can get, let alone some weird way of doing it with a syringe. But say a word about 'avoid mixing drinks' and you'll have the natives at your door with pitchforks. [/QUOTE]
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