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Tri Nations 2009-2011
All Blacks vs Springboks, July 10th 2010
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<blockquote data-quote="Iron Mike" data-source="post: 329027" data-attributes="member: 42045"><p>The only thing I didn't like about Thorn this game was handling, I think he dropped the ball three times? They aren't even really bad passes. But Thorn is solid, and whoever says Botha is better needs their bloody head checked. On a good day Botha is about on par with Thorn, but what seperates them is Botha rarely has a good day, if he has a day at all with all the suspensions he gets. Even if he was clearly better than Thorn, he still would be worse because you can't do much sitting in the sin bin or off in the stands because of a 9 week suspension. Botha is a thug, plain and simple, an overrated thug. Thorn is very solid, never gets into trouble, apart from the provoked dump tackle on John Smit and can play 80 minutes of rugby, with or without the refs help. He is the best number 4 lock in the world, Matfield being the best number 5 lock, although after that game he has to rethink his gameplan a bit. You can't compare Thorn and Matfield because they are two very different players.</p><p></p><p>All I know is I'd love to have both of them in my team.</p><p></p><p>The thing about Kirchner is, which I don't understand, is he does exactly what Morne Steyn or Fourie Du Preez or Francois Steyn do, which seem to be the three most talked about Springbok players, which is kick the ball away, yet Kirchner gets the **** for it, why? Kirchner sent a few up and unders the All Blacks way and it didn't really work because Jean De Villiers is a useless wing, stick a fast guy like Pieterson (is he injured?) or Gerhard van de Heever and you have yourself something to work with. He is a good defensive player and everyone hates him because he dropped a ball against Wales which led to a Welsh try and for some other reason? All I know is that whenever I see him play, I know he is dangerous and in that All Blacks game he was the only Springbok who looked like he knew what he was doing and actually looked threatening.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iron Mike, post: 329027, member: 42045"] The only thing I didn't like about Thorn this game was handling, I think he dropped the ball three times? They aren't even really bad passes. But Thorn is solid, and whoever says Botha is better needs their bloody head checked. On a good day Botha is about on par with Thorn, but what seperates them is Botha rarely has a good day, if he has a day at all with all the suspensions he gets. Even if he was clearly better than Thorn, he still would be worse because you can't do much sitting in the sin bin or off in the stands because of a 9 week suspension. Botha is a thug, plain and simple, an overrated thug. Thorn is very solid, never gets into trouble, apart from the provoked dump tackle on John Smit and can play 80 minutes of rugby, with or without the refs help. He is the best number 4 lock in the world, Matfield being the best number 5 lock, although after that game he has to rethink his gameplan a bit. You can't compare Thorn and Matfield because they are two very different players. All I know is I'd love to have both of them in my team. The thing about Kirchner is, which I don't understand, is he does exactly what Morne Steyn or Fourie Du Preez or Francois Steyn do, which seem to be the three most talked about Springbok players, which is kick the ball away, yet Kirchner gets the **** for it, why? Kirchner sent a few up and unders the All Blacks way and it didn't really work because Jean De Villiers is a useless wing, stick a fast guy like Pieterson (is he injured?) or Gerhard van de Heever and you have yourself something to work with. He is a good defensive player and everyone hates him because he dropped a ball against Wales which led to a Welsh try and for some other reason? All I know is that whenever I see him play, I know he is dangerous and in that All Blacks game he was the only Springbok who looked like he knew what he was doing and actually looked threatening. [/QUOTE]
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