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<blockquote data-quote="Big Ewis" data-source="post: 625187" data-attributes="member: 57076"><p>Flair has most definitely left France as a whole, on a national level (Top 14) or international test level. No doubt. The French backs have enough athleticism to produce pretty Rugby though, but it's been coached out of the team as a whole, most certainly there's no point discussing this.</p><p>But that doesn't mean teams are no good, that they don't have flair anymore. It's just with the sort of game that's played these days, power alone brings so much to the table and is a tried and tested way to win. The free-flowing game from the olden days was magnificent, much prettier than what you see today, but defenses, again, have never been this tight. </p><p>The most attractive/popular players are power players, the list is enormous but just look around. Players have never been this huge. The average world class third rower is like 105 to 110 kg. A majority is taller than 190cm in that category.</p><p></p><p>The guy who's making the most noise Rugby has heard in a long time is Sam Burgess. What does he do ? He smashes opponents with huge tackles and drives right into them to score tries. That says it all.</p><p></p><p>We're looking for versatile first rowers, even second rowers now. The more active they are on the field, the better. They're not just setpiece now. They carry, help out at the breakdown big time...it's a sport of pure strength.</p><p></p><p>And Australia may have had their worst year, but they're not "bad" either now. They got brutally outmuscled by the Boks twice and beaten by the record setting AB. The Lions are better now because all the British Isle teams are better, and world Rugby has leveled. The Wallabies aren't bad, look, they beat everybody in Europe and even England won illegally.</p><p></p><p>I bet you'd be surprised by how teams today would beat the older teams...man, wingers are picking up defenders on their backs, tackling 118kg no.8's into touch...guys are HUGE and defense has never been this tight.</p><p></p><p>One of the only teams that is objectively worse is France, but that's because we have the worst coach in Tier 1 Rugby. Our players aren't "a pale shadow of what" old French players were: we never had a Fofana at center. We never had a monster ball-carrier like Picamoles. Guitoune or Fickou are on their way to become world class backs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big Ewis, post: 625187, member: 57076"] Flair has most definitely left France as a whole, on a national level (Top 14) or international test level. No doubt. The French backs have enough athleticism to produce pretty Rugby though, but it's been coached out of the team as a whole, most certainly there's no point discussing this. But that doesn't mean teams are no good, that they don't have flair anymore. It's just with the sort of game that's played these days, power alone brings so much to the table and is a tried and tested way to win. The free-flowing game from the olden days was magnificent, much prettier than what you see today, but defenses, again, have never been this tight. The most attractive/popular players are power players, the list is enormous but just look around. Players have never been this huge. The average world class third rower is like 105 to 110 kg. A majority is taller than 190cm in that category. The guy who's making the most noise Rugby has heard in a long time is Sam Burgess. What does he do ? He smashes opponents with huge tackles and drives right into them to score tries. That says it all. We're looking for versatile first rowers, even second rowers now. The more active they are on the field, the better. They're not just setpiece now. They carry, help out at the breakdown big time...it's a sport of pure strength. And Australia may have had their worst year, but they're not "bad" either now. They got brutally outmuscled by the Boks twice and beaten by the record setting AB. The Lions are better now because all the British Isle teams are better, and world Rugby has leveled. The Wallabies aren't bad, look, they beat everybody in Europe and even England won illegally. I bet you'd be surprised by how teams today would beat the older teams...man, wingers are picking up defenders on their backs, tackling 118kg no.8's into touch...guys are HUGE and defense has never been this tight. One of the only teams that is objectively worse is France, but that's because we have the worst coach in Tier 1 Rugby. Our players aren't "a pale shadow of what" old French players were: we never had a Fofana at center. We never had a monster ball-carrier like Picamoles. Guitoune or Fickou are on their way to become world class backs. [/QUOTE]
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