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<blockquote data-quote="Melhor Time" data-source="post: 429832" data-attributes="member: 20116"><p>Merci ZeFrenchy</p><p></p><p>MartÃn Bustos Moyano was left out due to speed. Only three wingers have been picked and two fullbacks. All fast players that were former Sevens Stars. The Argentine teams that was second in the World Cup in 2009 behind Wales has many players in this squad like Camacho, Gonzalez Amorosino and RodrÃguez Gurruchaga. They also won the USA Sevens the same year. They´ve been picked to do damage. Argentina are going to attack up the middle with the speedmen. A good move vs England and Scotland I would think. It also makes sense why the´ve gone for the likes of Farias and Senatore - workrate players who are great defenders. Leguizamon will be a genuine wing forward. </p><p></p><p>I´m not happy with Figuerola missing out but am still extremely sad for Hernández. Contepomi at 10 is not the way to go but still I´d rather him than Toby Flood or Dan Parks without question. </p><p></p><p>I posted about the squad just now on my site: <a href="http://rugbyworldcup-argentina2023.blogspot.com/2011/08/30-pumas-for-rugby-world-cup-2011.html" target="_blank">http://rugbyworldcup-argentina2023.blogspot.com/2011/08/30-pumas-for-rugby-world-cup-2011.html</a></p><p>_________________________________________________________________________________</p><p></p><p>Argentina international rugby headcoach, Santiago Phelan has confirmed his list of 30 players for Rugby World Cup 2011. The squad contains six players based in Argentina, five in England and nineteen based in France. All foreign based players play for Aviva Premiership and Top 14 teams. The squad includes a number of surprizes with some regular players over the period of 2008-2011 missing out on selection. Names such as Rafael Carballo, Genaro Fessia, AgustÃn Figuerola and Lucas Borges have not made the cut. At the same time there are places for a number of players who have not featured so much at all. Players such as <strong>Nicolás Sánchez, Maximiliano Bustos, Tomás Vallejos Cinalli, AgustÃn Gosio </strong>and <strong>Juan Imhoff</strong> have all been included despite only debuting for Argentina this year. Their selection underlines the success of Los Pampas XV in South Africa´s Vodacom Cup this year as four of the five players were involved in the campaign. The star of Montpellier, <strong>MartÃn Bustos Moyano</strong>, has surprizingly missed out. His place has gone to the young Juan Imhoff who was the top try scorer in the Vodacom Cup as he showed tremendous pace. Bustos Moyano dmissed Saturday´s Argentina vs CONSUR XV match through injury while Imhoff made his debut, scoring a hattrick. </p><p></p><p>The darling of Argentine rugby from France 2007, <strong>Juan MartÃn Hernández</strong> has indeed not been selected for Rugby World Cup 2011. He is simply not going to be able to face England in the first match and so has been excluded. Coach, Santiago Phelan, said it was a very hard decision but at the end of the day he had to search for the best for the team as a whole. In place of El Mago is 22 year old Nicolás Sánchez who was a start for Los Pampas XV and will play in the French Top 14 for Bordeaux-Begles after New Zealand 2011. Suggesting he has big-boots to fill is true and he has the opportunity of a lifetime. But Sánchez, who has never played an international match against a team that will play at Rugby World Cup 2011, is to be the second choice flyhalf with Felipe Contepomi wearing the ten shirt and captaining Argentina. Despite being globally considered as a better player at inside centre, Contepomi, will indeed lead the team from pivot.</p><p></p><p><IFRAME height=286 src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/DH3ajNP-Vhk?rel=0" frameBorder=0 width=450 allowfullscreen=""></IFRAME></p><p></p><p>The biggest surprize of all come at scrumhalf with Phelan leaving out, arguably, Argentina´s best player in this position, AgustÃn Figuerola. In place of Figuerola is <strong>Alfredo Lalanne</strong> who played very few matches last season for his English club, London Irish. Lalanne was man of the match for Argentina in the home win vs England in 2009 but other than that has been unable to perform regularly at the required level. He will be used as the reserve scrumhalf in place of Nicolas Vergallo. Elsewhere in the backs first choice outside centre, <strong>Gonzalo Tiesi</strong>, is under an injury cloud but has been selected nonetheless and should he be unavaliable for the first match of the tournament Argentina will go with either Marcelo Bosch or AgustÃn Gosio who has been named in the squad despite having no professional experience and has been picked over professional players including Rafael Carballo, Miguel Avramovic and Federico MartÃn Aramburu. </p><p></p><p>The selection of Juan Imhoff, amongst others, suggests that Phelan is not a traditionalist at all. He has dropped Lucas Borges and Rafael Carballo who have both scored tries for Los Pumas in recent years but both are significantly older and lack the share pace of Imhoff. He will join what can only be called a new-look back-three with Horacio Agulla being the only survivor from France 2007. The impressive Gonzalo Camacho is likely to start on one wing with Agulla and Imhoff fighting for the other spot. The fullback spot will go to MartÃn RodrÃguez Gurruchaga with Lucas González Amorosino being his backup and also an option to start on the wing. </p><p></p><p>The frontrow is a different story entirely with the frontrow from France 2007 still intact despite all being mid-thirties or higher. Mario Ledesma is back for his fourth Rugby World Cup and has annoucnement his retirement to pursue a career in coaching with Stade Français. Rodrigo Roncero and MartÃn Scelzo join him in what may well be the oldest frontrow in the history of the Rugby World Cup. The best looseheadprop in England, Marcos Ayerza is also included as are the impressive young duo of Maximilano Bustos and Juan Figallo. Both are seemingly included for the match vs Romania so that Roncero and Scelzo can rest while Ayerza can play on either side of the scrum. AgustÃn Creevy´s move from the backrow to hooker can only be described as incredible as he has been selected as Argentina´s secnod hooker and will certinalyu push hard to start in the Pumas number 2 shirt. Both Eusebio Guiñazú and Andrés Bordoy have missed out on selection. Both can play either prop or hooker but rather than take either, Phelan has opted to go for two specialist loosehead props, two specialist tighthead props and one who can play on both sides at international level. It is a sign of things to come as Phelan is likely to play with two props on the bench and thus only two backs. </p><p></p><p>Secondrower Tomas Vallejos Cinalli has never played a full international match for Argentina. The Harlequins secondrower has been a constant performer but has not been amongst the best Argentine players in his position. His selection ahead of Santiago Guzmán and Esteban Lozada is a surprize but seems to be due to his professional experience. So much will depend on Patricio Albacete who is one of the worlds greatest secondrowers and the best Argentina has ever produced. His high workrate and lineout abilities will be crucial if Argentina are to go far in the tournament. He will be responsible for organizing everything in this area and will need solid support from Manuel Carizza and Manuel Galarza in the match day 22. </p><p></p><p>Two of Argentina´s stars from the Vodacom Cup have been included amongst the backrowers. Julio Farias Cabello and Leonardo Senatore join three French based players and a fourth who played last sesson for Agen. The inclusion of Farias is not so surprizing going on form as his workrate in the Vodacom Cup was outstanding and he was Argentinaá biggest ball carrier vs the CONSUR XV on Saturday. He is also an additional option for the secondrow. Senatore´s selection is in place of Genaro Fessia who has been a regular in Phelan´s teams since he took over from Marcelo Loffreda in early 2008.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong><u><span style="color: #073763">Argentina Squad for New Zealand 2011</span></u></strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"></span><strong>Hooker</strong></p><p>AgustÃn Creevy (Montpellier, France)</p><p>Mario Ledesma (Clermont, France)</p><p></p><p><strong>Loosehead Prop</strong></p><p>Marcos Ayerza (Leicester Tigers, England)</p><p>Juan Figallo (Montpellier, France)</p><p>Rodrigo Roncero (Stade Français, France)</p><p></p><p><strong>Tighthead Prop</strong></p><p>Maximilano Bustos (Montpellier, France)</p><p>MartÃn Scelzo (Agen, France)</p><p></p><p><strong>Secondrow</strong></p><p>Patricio Albacete (Toulouse, France)</p><p>Manuel Carizza (Biarritz, France)</p><p>Mariano Galarza (Unattached)</p><p>Tomas Vallejos Cinalli (Harlequins, England)</p><p></p><p><strong>Backrow</strong></p><p>Alejandro Campos (Unattached)</p><p>Julio Farias Cabello (Tucumán R.C)</p><p>Juan MartÃn Fernández Lobbe <strong>vice-captain</strong> (Toulon, France)</p><p>Alvaro Galindo (Racing Metro, France)</p><p>Juan Manuel Leguizamón (Lyon OU, France)</p><p>Leonardo Senatore (G.E.R)</p><p></p><p><strong>Scrumhalf</strong></p><p>Alfredo Lalanne (London Irish, England)</p><p>Nicolás Vergallo (Toulouse, France)</p><p></p><p><strong>Flyhalf</strong></p><p>Felipe Contepomi <strong>captain</strong> (Stade Français, France)</p><p>Nicolás Sánchez (Bordeaux-Begles, France)</p><p></p><p><strong>Centre</strong></p><p>Marcelo Bosch (Biarritz, France)</p><p>Santi Fernández (Montpellier, France)</p><p>AgustÃn Gosio (Club Newman)</p><p>Gonzalo Tiesi (Stade Français, France)</p><p></p><p><strong>Wing</strong></p><p>Horacio Agulla (Leicester Tigers, England)</p><p>Gonzalo Camacho (Exeter Chiefs, England)</p><p>Juan Imhoff (Duendes R.C)</p><p></p><p><strong>Fullback</strong></p><p>Lucas González Amorosino (Montpellier, France)</p><p>MartÃn RodrÃguez Gurruchaga (Stade Français, France)</p><p><IFRAME height=286 src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/DH3ajNP-Vhk?rel=0" frameBorder=0 width=450 allowfullscreen=""></IFRAME></p><p>Postado</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Melhor Time, post: 429832, member: 20116"] Merci ZeFrenchy MartÃn Bustos Moyano was left out due to speed. Only three wingers have been picked and two fullbacks. All fast players that were former Sevens Stars. The Argentine teams that was second in the World Cup in 2009 behind Wales has many players in this squad like Camacho, Gonzalez Amorosino and RodrÃguez Gurruchaga. They also won the USA Sevens the same year. They´ve been picked to do damage. Argentina are going to attack up the middle with the speedmen. A good move vs England and Scotland I would think. It also makes sense why the´ve gone for the likes of Farias and Senatore - workrate players who are great defenders. Leguizamon will be a genuine wing forward. I´m not happy with Figuerola missing out but am still extremely sad for Hernández. Contepomi at 10 is not the way to go but still I´d rather him than Toby Flood or Dan Parks without question. I posted about the squad just now on my site: [URL]http://rugbyworldcup-argentina2023.blogspot.com/2011/08/30-pumas-for-rugby-world-cup-2011.html[/URL] _________________________________________________________________________________ Argentina international rugby headcoach, Santiago Phelan has confirmed his list of 30 players for Rugby World Cup 2011. The squad contains six players based in Argentina, five in England and nineteen based in France. All foreign based players play for Aviva Premiership and Top 14 teams. The squad includes a number of surprizes with some regular players over the period of 2008-2011 missing out on selection. Names such as Rafael Carballo, Genaro Fessia, AgustÃn Figuerola and Lucas Borges have not made the cut. At the same time there are places for a number of players who have not featured so much at all. Players such as [B]Nicolás Sánchez, Maximiliano Bustos, Tomás Vallejos Cinalli, AgustÃn Gosio [/B]and [B]Juan Imhoff[/B] have all been included despite only debuting for Argentina this year. Their selection underlines the success of Los Pampas XV in South Africa´s Vodacom Cup this year as four of the five players were involved in the campaign. The star of Montpellier, [B]MartÃn Bustos Moyano[/B], has surprizingly missed out. His place has gone to the young Juan Imhoff who was the top try scorer in the Vodacom Cup as he showed tremendous pace. Bustos Moyano dmissed Saturday´s Argentina vs CONSUR XV match through injury while Imhoff made his debut, scoring a hattrick. The darling of Argentine rugby from France 2007, [B]Juan MartÃn Hernández[/B] has indeed not been selected for Rugby World Cup 2011. He is simply not going to be able to face England in the first match and so has been excluded. Coach, Santiago Phelan, said it was a very hard decision but at the end of the day he had to search for the best for the team as a whole. In place of El Mago is 22 year old Nicolás Sánchez who was a start for Los Pampas XV and will play in the French Top 14 for Bordeaux-Begles after New Zealand 2011. Suggesting he has big-boots to fill is true and he has the opportunity of a lifetime. But Sánchez, who has never played an international match against a team that will play at Rugby World Cup 2011, is to be the second choice flyhalf with Felipe Contepomi wearing the ten shirt and captaining Argentina. Despite being globally considered as a better player at inside centre, Contepomi, will indeed lead the team from pivot. <IFRAME height=286 src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/DH3ajNP-Vhk?rel=0" frameBorder=0 width=450 allowfullscreen=""></IFRAME> The biggest surprize of all come at scrumhalf with Phelan leaving out, arguably, Argentina´s best player in this position, AgustÃn Figuerola. In place of Figuerola is [B]Alfredo Lalanne[/B] who played very few matches last season for his English club, London Irish. Lalanne was man of the match for Argentina in the home win vs England in 2009 but other than that has been unable to perform regularly at the required level. He will be used as the reserve scrumhalf in place of Nicolas Vergallo. Elsewhere in the backs first choice outside centre, [B]Gonzalo Tiesi[/B], is under an injury cloud but has been selected nonetheless and should he be unavaliable for the first match of the tournament Argentina will go with either Marcelo Bosch or AgustÃn Gosio who has been named in the squad despite having no professional experience and has been picked over professional players including Rafael Carballo, Miguel Avramovic and Federico MartÃn Aramburu. The selection of Juan Imhoff, amongst others, suggests that Phelan is not a traditionalist at all. He has dropped Lucas Borges and Rafael Carballo who have both scored tries for Los Pumas in recent years but both are significantly older and lack the share pace of Imhoff. He will join what can only be called a new-look back-three with Horacio Agulla being the only survivor from France 2007. The impressive Gonzalo Camacho is likely to start on one wing with Agulla and Imhoff fighting for the other spot. The fullback spot will go to MartÃn RodrÃguez Gurruchaga with Lucas González Amorosino being his backup and also an option to start on the wing. The frontrow is a different story entirely with the frontrow from France 2007 still intact despite all being mid-thirties or higher. Mario Ledesma is back for his fourth Rugby World Cup and has annoucnement his retirement to pursue a career in coaching with Stade Français. Rodrigo Roncero and MartÃn Scelzo join him in what may well be the oldest frontrow in the history of the Rugby World Cup. The best looseheadprop in England, Marcos Ayerza is also included as are the impressive young duo of Maximilano Bustos and Juan Figallo. Both are seemingly included for the match vs Romania so that Roncero and Scelzo can rest while Ayerza can play on either side of the scrum. AgustÃn Creevy´s move from the backrow to hooker can only be described as incredible as he has been selected as Argentina´s secnod hooker and will certinalyu push hard to start in the Pumas number 2 shirt. Both Eusebio Guiñazú and Andrés Bordoy have missed out on selection. Both can play either prop or hooker but rather than take either, Phelan has opted to go for two specialist loosehead props, two specialist tighthead props and one who can play on both sides at international level. It is a sign of things to come as Phelan is likely to play with two props on the bench and thus only two backs. Secondrower Tomas Vallejos Cinalli has never played a full international match for Argentina. The Harlequins secondrower has been a constant performer but has not been amongst the best Argentine players in his position. His selection ahead of Santiago Guzmán and Esteban Lozada is a surprize but seems to be due to his professional experience. So much will depend on Patricio Albacete who is one of the worlds greatest secondrowers and the best Argentina has ever produced. His high workrate and lineout abilities will be crucial if Argentina are to go far in the tournament. He will be responsible for organizing everything in this area and will need solid support from Manuel Carizza and Manuel Galarza in the match day 22. Two of Argentina´s stars from the Vodacom Cup have been included amongst the backrowers. Julio Farias Cabello and Leonardo Senatore join three French based players and a fourth who played last sesson for Agen. The inclusion of Farias is not so surprizing going on form as his workrate in the Vodacom Cup was outstanding and he was Argentinaá biggest ball carrier vs the CONSUR XV on Saturday. He is also an additional option for the secondrow. Senatore´s selection is in place of Genaro Fessia who has been a regular in Phelan´s teams since he took over from Marcelo Loffreda in early 2008. [SIZE=6][B][U][COLOR=#073763]Argentina Squad for New Zealand 2011[/COLOR][/U][/B] [/SIZE][B]Hooker[/B] AgustÃn Creevy (Montpellier, France) Mario Ledesma (Clermont, France) [B]Loosehead Prop[/B] Marcos Ayerza (Leicester Tigers, England) Juan Figallo (Montpellier, France) Rodrigo Roncero (Stade Français, France) [B]Tighthead Prop[/B] Maximilano Bustos (Montpellier, France) MartÃn Scelzo (Agen, France) [B]Secondrow[/B] Patricio Albacete (Toulouse, France) Manuel Carizza (Biarritz, France) Mariano Galarza (Unattached) Tomas Vallejos Cinalli (Harlequins, England) [B]Backrow[/B] Alejandro Campos (Unattached) Julio Farias Cabello (Tucumán R.C) Juan MartÃn Fernández Lobbe [B]vice-captain[/B] (Toulon, France) Alvaro Galindo (Racing Metro, France) Juan Manuel Leguizamón (Lyon OU, France) Leonardo Senatore (G.E.R) [B]Scrumhalf[/B] Alfredo Lalanne (London Irish, England) Nicolás Vergallo (Toulouse, France) [B]Flyhalf[/B] Felipe Contepomi [B]captain[/B] (Stade Français, France) Nicolás Sánchez (Bordeaux-Begles, France) [B]Centre[/B] Marcelo Bosch (Biarritz, France) Santi Fernández (Montpellier, France) AgustÃn Gosio (Club Newman) Gonzalo Tiesi (Stade Français, France) [B]Wing[/B] Horacio Agulla (Leicester Tigers, England) Gonzalo Camacho (Exeter Chiefs, England) Juan Imhoff (Duendes R.C) [B]Fullback[/B] Lucas González Amorosino (Montpellier, France) MartÃn RodrÃguez Gurruchaga (Stade Français, France) <IFRAME height=286 src="http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/DH3ajNP-Vhk?rel=0" frameBorder=0 width=450 allowfullscreen=""></IFRAME> Postado [/QUOTE]
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