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<blockquote data-quote="nickdnz" data-source="post: 766977" data-attributes="member: 38640"><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p>I enjoy the righteous indignation - so explain to me how a PI team would work.</p><p></p><p>Let's start with who pays the players? Which Pacific Island Union can afford to run a team? Samoa refuses to pay their international players a reasonable rate when they tour, they just faced players threatening striking, and they have been dodging corruption (and potentially embezzlement from donations) charges by a total lack of transparency. Their Prime Minister is also head of SRU, and is a corrupt fool. Personally think the IRB should make charges against SRU.</p><p></p><p>Tonga has an even less funded union - and has also faced criticism for underpaying their internationals - which resulted in captain Nili Latu being dropped from the team for years (much like Samoa with Schwalger).</p><p></p><p>Last year Fiji Rugby Union had their annual $2.2m of IRB funding suspended - after the union's finances were not up to scratch - and the union is constantly interfered with by the military dictatorship.</p><p></p><p>So which union do you propose runs it?</p><p></p><p>Okay, let's look at infrastructure. In order for Apia Stadium to meet the minimum requirements they had to cut seating down to 8,000. Which wasn't a problem; as the costs of tickets outpriced the Samoan fans anyway. The tickets were largely bought by traveling NZ fans - probably not able to be relied upon for a whole SR season). SRU lost $2m to host the ABs (who made nothing from the trip) - wonder what they lose with 8 home games and 8 away games. Suva has 4,000 seats and a embankment - but again would have to outprice the locals.</p><p></p><p>One suggestion was hosting the team in Auckland - seeing as it has such a large PI population. Of course that means the NZRU footing the bill, while also hurting the Blues.</p><p></p><p>Of course the unions would also have to be cut into the TV deal, but seeing as they already have SR games - and there is only a total audience of 1m - means SANZAR would get less money with no potential to get more.</p><p></p><p>Which brings me to my final point. There is no room for those nations to further develop the game. They are a small nation with a small total income, which are already passionate about rugby. On merit, yeah they have some fantastic talent. But it's professional sports run by buisnesses. If I want to expand - I'd want to expand into a big market with great potential. Not a small market which has reached its potential.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nickdnz, post: 766977, member: 38640"] Yes. I enjoy the righteous indignation - so explain to me how a PI team would work. Let's start with who pays the players? Which Pacific Island Union can afford to run a team? Samoa refuses to pay their international players a reasonable rate when they tour, they just faced players threatening striking, and they have been dodging corruption (and potentially embezzlement from donations) charges by a total lack of transparency. Their Prime Minister is also head of SRU, and is a corrupt fool. Personally think the IRB should make charges against SRU. Tonga has an even less funded union - and has also faced criticism for underpaying their internationals - which resulted in captain Nili Latu being dropped from the team for years (much like Samoa with Schwalger). Last year Fiji Rugby Union had their annual $2.2m of IRB funding suspended - after the union's finances were not up to scratch - and the union is constantly interfered with by the military dictatorship. So which union do you propose runs it? Okay, let's look at infrastructure. In order for Apia Stadium to meet the minimum requirements they had to cut seating down to 8,000. Which wasn't a problem; as the costs of tickets outpriced the Samoan fans anyway. The tickets were largely bought by traveling NZ fans - probably not able to be relied upon for a whole SR season). SRU lost $2m to host the ABs (who made nothing from the trip) - wonder what they lose with 8 home games and 8 away games. Suva has 4,000 seats and a embankment - but again would have to outprice the locals. One suggestion was hosting the team in Auckland - seeing as it has such a large PI population. Of course that means the NZRU footing the bill, while also hurting the Blues. Of course the unions would also have to be cut into the TV deal, but seeing as they already have SR games - and there is only a total audience of 1m - means SANZAR would get less money with no potential to get more. Which brings me to my final point. There is no room for those nations to further develop the game. They are a small nation with a small total income, which are already passionate about rugby. On merit, yeah they have some fantastic talent. But it's professional sports run by buisnesses. If I want to expand - I'd want to expand into a big market with great potential. Not a small market which has reached its potential. [/QUOTE]
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