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Brett Gosper: 3 Year Residency Rule to be changed?
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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 723464" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>Most of the Polish people living in the UK right now aren't there because they like fat chicks in Burnley and being racially abused by ignorant scum, they can't get a job at home so for reasons of self preservation like employment and the example Heineken gave they leave home. Due to a Pole, or any European, having more national identity through culture, history etc... than a white New Zealander or Australian (not meant to be offensive, it's just a fact), they raise their family with Polish families and traditions, this in turn leads to the kids considering themselves Polish, it can become somewhat diluted by time the grand kids come around but it's still there. Most kids support the same team as their dad as well. Citezenship laws are a terrible example for criteria, they're all very different and it'd be like me saying if you can get a passport you should be able to play, convert to Judaism and you can play for Israel, the grandparent rule would still apply for Ireland, Poland, Spain and Italy among others and to play for the States you'd have to go through an outrageous 6 step process ending in an oath of loyalty. That doesn't seen like a fair system to me. You have not come up with a single reason why a grandparent rule shouldn't exist other than "just because" all your points, well your only point seems to be I have English Grandparents but I don't feel English so lineage ain't worth ****, would suggest that there shouldn't even be a parent rule and everyone should stick to where they're born whether it's England, New Zealand or Kazachstan.This is nothing radical, most people meet their grandparents or some of them, most people are influenced greatly by them and if all four of them, or three or even two or one are from a different country of their birth they're going to identify with that country. I think your approach is based too much on personal experience and is too cautious, the goal should be to stop the Jared Paynes, CJ Standers and Richardt Strauss of the world changing allegiances (Christ we're awful) who cares if a Michael Bent slips through the cracks or a second rate player goes to a tier 2 side, what you don't want is to stop the likes of Simon Geogehan playing for their country.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 723464, member: 45598"] Most of the Polish people living in the UK right now aren't there because they like fat chicks in Burnley and being racially abused by ignorant scum, they can't get a job at home so for reasons of self preservation like employment and the example Heineken gave they leave home. Due to a Pole, or any European, having more national identity through culture, history etc... than a white New Zealander or Australian (not meant to be offensive, it's just a fact), they raise their family with Polish families and traditions, this in turn leads to the kids considering themselves Polish, it can become somewhat diluted by time the grand kids come around but it's still there. Most kids support the same team as their dad as well. Citezenship laws are a terrible example for criteria, they're all very different and it'd be like me saying if you can get a passport you should be able to play, convert to Judaism and you can play for Israel, the grandparent rule would still apply for Ireland, Poland, Spain and Italy among others and to play for the States you'd have to go through an outrageous 6 step process ending in an oath of loyalty. That doesn't seen like a fair system to me. You have not come up with a single reason why a grandparent rule shouldn't exist other than "just because" all your points, well your only point seems to be I have English Grandparents but I don't feel English so lineage ain't worth ****, would suggest that there shouldn't even be a parent rule and everyone should stick to where they're born whether it's England, New Zealand or Kazachstan.This is nothing radical, most people meet their grandparents or some of them, most people are influenced greatly by them and if all four of them, or three or even two or one are from a different country of their birth they're going to identify with that country. I think your approach is based too much on personal experience and is too cautious, the goal should be to stop the Jared Paynes, CJ Standers and Richardt Strauss of the world changing allegiances (Christ we're awful) who cares if a Michael Bent slips through the cracks or a second rate player goes to a tier 2 side, what you don't want is to stop the likes of Simon Geogehan playing for their country. [/QUOTE]
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