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<blockquote data-quote="goodNumber10" data-source="post: 733248" data-attributes="member: 71068"><p>I think you're being a bit disingenuous here. The English domestic league was good but still pretty poor in contrast to super xv and where we are now, Woodward formed a test level squad despite the limitations of the NH game, he took players he liked away from the domestic game, ignored their club form and got them fitter and better skilled than everyone else - his team were more coherent, he brought in a fantastic coaching team, incredible analysts and levels of organisation that had never been seen before, he also took an England team to Australasia and won in NZ beating NZ Maori and the All Blacks and Australia and won his world cup in the SH - which regardless is a difficult place to go.</p><p></p><p>Also lets not forget that two years prior the Lions went to Australia with one of the strongest squads in recent history to play a world champion Wallaby squad and got turned over, the 2003 All Blacks ran a clean sweep in the Tri Nations that year and went 3/1 the year before.</p><p></p><p>I do agree that the Lions 2005 was a complete shambles and that he'd become stale by then - he also wasn't involved in domestic Rugby at that stage, but Woodward was/is a good sports related manager, despite his ridiculous move into football he has delivered a brilliant olympic squad.</p><p></p><p>that England team under the leadership of Woodward completely changed the face of rugby - it was no longer about rugby it was about Details! New Zealand 2005-2007 had almost the exact same impact imho showing that the game was better suited to athletes than just big blokes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="goodNumber10, post: 733248, member: 71068"] I think you're being a bit disingenuous here. The English domestic league was good but still pretty poor in contrast to super xv and where we are now, Woodward formed a test level squad despite the limitations of the NH game, he took players he liked away from the domestic game, ignored their club form and got them fitter and better skilled than everyone else - his team were more coherent, he brought in a fantastic coaching team, incredible analysts and levels of organisation that had never been seen before, he also took an England team to Australasia and won in NZ beating NZ Maori and the All Blacks and Australia and won his world cup in the SH - which regardless is a difficult place to go. Also lets not forget that two years prior the Lions went to Australia with one of the strongest squads in recent history to play a world champion Wallaby squad and got turned over, the 2003 All Blacks ran a clean sweep in the Tri Nations that year and went 3/1 the year before. I do agree that the Lions 2005 was a complete shambles and that he'd become stale by then - he also wasn't involved in domestic Rugby at that stage, but Woodward was/is a good sports related manager, despite his ridiculous move into football he has delivered a brilliant olympic squad. that England team under the leadership of Woodward completely changed the face of rugby - it was no longer about rugby it was about Details! New Zealand 2005-2007 had almost the exact same impact imho showing that the game was better suited to athletes than just big blokes. [/QUOTE]
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