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<blockquote data-quote="j&#039;nuh" data-source="post: 650366" data-attributes="member: 55446"><p>Interesting. I guess the point is that tiering by domestic competition doesn't take into consideration the relative strengths of each league. e.g. how can we evaluate the relative strength of 3rd place French team vs. 3rd place Premiership team? Whereas tiering by European success is an absolutely atrocious idea for so many reasons (small number of games, biased towards those who won in previous years, </p><p></p><p>tbh, I'd be more in favour of scrapping tiering altogether. Tiering makes sense in the WC, because you want to avoid the top tier one teams taking early exits. (As will be the case for one of Australia, Wales and England.) In the European Cup, there are enough high quality teams to randomise the groups and keep it competitive throughout. Especially since only the top team in each group progress (as well as some highest runner-ups).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="j'nuh, post: 650366, member: 55446"] Interesting. I guess the point is that tiering by domestic competition doesn't take into consideration the relative strengths of each league. e.g. how can we evaluate the relative strength of 3rd place French team vs. 3rd place Premiership team? Whereas tiering by European success is an absolutely atrocious idea for so many reasons (small number of games, biased towards those who won in previous years, tbh, I'd be more in favour of scrapping tiering altogether. Tiering makes sense in the WC, because you want to avoid the top tier one teams taking early exits. (As will be the case for one of Australia, Wales and England.) In the European Cup, there are enough high quality teams to randomise the groups and keep it competitive throughout. Especially since only the top team in each group progress (as well as some highest runner-ups). [/QUOTE]
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