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<blockquote data-quote="UlsterRugby2012" data-source="post: 650460" data-attributes="member: 59097"><p><span style="color: #000000">Glasgow have been performing well past 2 years and had great league as well as it being great to have Scottish team going well. <strong>(yes but they've done absolutely nothing in Europe.. and that is exactly my point, it shouldn't in my opinion just be based off the league)</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Ulster - I presume if you base it on anything fact is they've won nothing and I can't see how you can argue it based on what they've done. Bad luck played a part but that's life. <strong>(you can't judge every team by trophies, how could that possibly work? Munster haven't won anything either in quite a few years so by that logic it doesn't work. I'd say Ulster should be tier two, based on the fact they're the only team to qualify for the knockouts for the last 4 seasons and top seed last year - including a recent final)</strong></span><span style="color: #000000">Toulouse. Haven't done much in a while so again they can't argue. <strong>(True, but tier 4? Along with Wasps, Sale, Treviso etc? Not a chance.)</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Clermont were beaten French Semi Finalists but haven't much to change seedlings. <strong>(looking over their last few seasons they've consistently made semi-finals.. doesn't sound like a tier 3 team to me?)</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Montpellier were French Semi Finalist and consistent there. They aren't wrongly seeded <strong>(Again, they didn't even qualify for the knockouts last year and haven't done much in Europe which is what I'm getting at. I do rate them but I think there's other teams more worthy)</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Saints haven't done much in HEC and yes they won the AP playoff but not the league and it's not based on 1 off games<strong> (thank you for making my own point, yet they are classed as tier 1)</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Castres. French champions last year and runners up this year.<strong> (fair enough on this - but again they haven't done much in Europe but tier 2 is understandable..)</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">My reply to you is in brackets..</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">Again in case I didn't make it clear, I think this is a great improvement and undoubtedly will make for more high quality match ups and less thrashings of weak teams. As an Ulster fan personally I'm very excited for the big games next season but also disappointed I don't think we'll be able to compete as well this year - just depends on how our new transfers go.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UlsterRugby2012, post: 650460, member: 59097"] [COLOR=#000000]Glasgow have been performing well past 2 years and had great league as well as it being great to have Scottish team going well. [B](yes but they've done absolutely nothing in Europe.. and that is exactly my point, it shouldn't in my opinion just be based off the league)[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Ulster - I presume if you base it on anything fact is they've won nothing and I can't see how you can argue it based on what they've done. Bad luck played a part but that's life. [B](you can't judge every team by trophies, how could that possibly work? Munster haven't won anything either in quite a few years so by that logic it doesn't work. I'd say Ulster should be tier two, based on the fact they're the only team to qualify for the knockouts for the last 4 seasons and top seed last year - including a recent final)[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]Toulouse. Haven't done much in a while so again they can't argue. [B](True, but tier 4? Along with Wasps, Sale, Treviso etc? Not a chance.)[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Clermont were beaten French Semi Finalists but haven't much to change seedlings. [B](looking over their last few seasons they've consistently made semi-finals.. doesn't sound like a tier 3 team to me?)[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Montpellier were French Semi Finalist and consistent there. They aren't wrongly seeded [B](Again, they didn't even qualify for the knockouts last year and haven't done much in Europe which is what I'm getting at. I do rate them but I think there's other teams more worthy)[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Saints haven't done much in HEC and yes they won the AP playoff but not the league and it's not based on 1 off games[B] (thank you for making my own point, yet they are classed as tier 1)[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]Castres. French champions last year and runners up this year.[B] (fair enough on this - but again they haven't done much in Europe but tier 2 is understandable..)[/B] My reply to you is in brackets.. Again in case I didn't make it clear, I think this is a great improvement and undoubtedly will make for more high quality match ups and less thrashings of weak teams. As an Ulster fan personally I'm very excited for the big games next season but also disappointed I don't think we'll be able to compete as well this year - just depends on how our new transfers go.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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