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<blockquote data-quote="white bear" data-source="post: 469691" data-attributes="member: 57922"><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Of course</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, the level of </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the game </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">at least </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">3 Russian </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Club (</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Yenisey, </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Krasny Yar and </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">VVA</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">) </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">should play in the </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Challenge </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Cup</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">But </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">only </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">VVA </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Monino (</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Moscow </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">area) </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">is located </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">in the European part</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">It is possible that </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">in the next </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">season VV</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">A </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">will play </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">in </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the Chal Cup, </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">have </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">to finish the </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">new </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">rugby </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">stadium for 10 </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">or 11 </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">thousand seats.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span>[ATTACH]1557[/ATTACH]</p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">As for the two </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">clubs </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">of Krasnoyarsk</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, I think</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, because of the </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">large distances and the </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Siberian climate</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">is unrealistic </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">to play </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">in European competition.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">To allow you to compare the level of Russian clubs, here are the results of the international tournament Cup of Mayor of Moscow. Note that the VVA Monino - Champion of Russia (2006-2010) was not involved there.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Mayor Cup 2007</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Gr A</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sla 45-0 Agr</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sla 38-18 Avi</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Avi 8-18 Agr</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Gr B</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Din 36-20 Fili</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Din 14-10 Bul</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Bul 63-5 Fili</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Final</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sla 14-13 Din</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">3 place</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Bul 40-7 Agr</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">5 place</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Avi 24-16 Fili</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Table</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">1. Slava Moscow (in Russian League seats 3 place in 2007 season)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">2. Dinamo Bucuresti (Romanian Champion)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">3. Blue Bulls Pretoria (amatory)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">4. Agronomia Lisbon (Portugal Champion)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">5. Aviator Kiev (3 place in Little Russia)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">6. Fili Moscow (3 place in Second Russian Division)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Mayor Cup 2008</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Gr A</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sla 13-15 Sunt</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sunt 59-14 Kre</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sla 52-10 Kre</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Gr B</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Eni 17-15 San</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Eni 46-5 Din</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Din 48-19 San</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Final</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sunt 10-36 Eni</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">3 place</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Sla 41-13 Din</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">5 place </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">San 72-0 Kre</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Table</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">1. Enisey-STM Krasnoyarsk (3 place in Russian League)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">2. Suntory Sungoliath Tokyo (Japan Champion)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">3. Slava Moscow (2 place in Russian League)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">4. Dinamo Bucuresti (Romanian Champion)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">5. Sanix Blues Fukuoka (12 place in Japan Top-14)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">6. Kredo-63 Odessa (2 place in Little Russia)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">And in this year(22 April) in Saransk VVA Monino (3 place in Russian League 2011) 45-40 Grenoble (2 place in France Pro D2 2010\11).</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="white bear, post: 469691, member: 57922"] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Of course[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], the level of [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the game [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]at least [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]3 Russian [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Club ([/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Yenisey, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Krasny Yar and [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]VVA[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]) [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]should play in the [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Challenge [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Cup[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]But [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]only [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]VVA [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Monino ([/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Moscow [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]area) [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]is located [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]in the European part[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]It is possible that [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]in the next [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]season VV[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]A [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]will play [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]in [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the Chal Cup, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]have [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]to finish the [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]new [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]rugby [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]stadium for 10 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]or 11 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]thousand seats. [/FONT][/COLOR][ATTACH]1557.vB[/ATTACH] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]As for the two [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]clubs [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]of Krasnoyarsk[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], I think[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], because of the [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]large distances and the [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Siberian climate[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]is unrealistic [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]to play [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]in European competition. To allow you to compare the level of Russian clubs, here are the results of the international tournament Cup of Mayor of Moscow. Note that the VVA Monino - Champion of Russia (2006-2010) was not involved there. Mayor Cup 2007 Gr A Sla 45-0 Agr Sla 38-18 Avi Avi 8-18 Agr Gr B Din 36-20 Fili Din 14-10 Bul Bul 63-5 Fili Final Sla 14-13 Din 3 place Bul 40-7 Agr 5 place Avi 24-16 Fili Table 1. Slava Moscow (in Russian League seats 3 place in 2007 season) 2. Dinamo Bucuresti (Romanian Champion) 3. Blue Bulls Pretoria (amatory) 4. Agronomia Lisbon (Portugal Champion) 5. Aviator Kiev (3 place in Little Russia) 6. Fili Moscow (3 place in Second Russian Division) Mayor Cup 2008 Gr A Sla 13-15 Sunt Sunt 59-14 Kre Sla 52-10 Kre Gr B Eni 17-15 San Eni 46-5 Din Din 48-19 San Final Sunt 10-36 Eni 3 place Sla 41-13 Din 5 place San 72-0 Kre Table 1. Enisey-STM Krasnoyarsk (3 place in Russian League) 2. Suntory Sungoliath Tokyo (Japan Champion) 3. Slava Moscow (2 place in Russian League) 4. Dinamo Bucuresti (Romanian Champion) 5. Sanix Blues Fukuoka (12 place in Japan Top-14) 6. Kredo-63 Odessa (2 place in Little Russia) And in this year(22 April) in Saransk VVA Monino (3 place in Russian League 2011) 45-40 Grenoble (2 place in France Pro D2 2010\11).[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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