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<blockquote data-quote="white bear" data-source="post: 479926" data-attributes="member: 57922"><p>I think that <span style="color: #333333">Russia-Georgia-Romania league is umpossible. This more distanse, visas for little club, very differente salarys.</span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">If we</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">do</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">so</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, then such</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">clubs as</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> Imperia</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, Novokuznetsk, </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Spartak,</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> Slava</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">..</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">die</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, as</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">will not be able</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">to find money for </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">international travel</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> S</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">urvive</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> 3-4 </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Russian</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">club.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">We have no</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">way out,</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">only to build</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">a strong professional</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">league, </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">to increase the number</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">of clubs,</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">inviting</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">strong</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">foreign players.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">To</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">clubs</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">2 and 3</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">tier</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">played against</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the VVA</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">,</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the Yenisei and </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the Krasny</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> Ya</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">r</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">A</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> 3 </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">top</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">clubs</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, of course</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, you need</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">international </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">games to</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">also</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">grow.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">But</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">without reform of the</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Amlin</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">-</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">it's impossible.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">November</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">-December,</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">even in Moscow</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">can not</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">play rugby</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">It is necessary</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">to delay</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span><a href="http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3" target="_blank"></a></p><p><a href="http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3" target="_blank"></a></p><p><a href="http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3" target="_blank"></a></p><p><a href="http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3" target="_blank"></a></p><p></p><p>My answer about Kingsley Jones ides with 2 Rus franshise:</p><p><a href="http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3" target="_blank">http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3</a></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Rumor has it </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">that soon</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> VV</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">A </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">(where </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">to build </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">a new stadium</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, around </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">December 2012</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">).</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Kingsley </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Jones </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">wants to have </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">two </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">franchises</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, "</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Moscow" </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">(players</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> from</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> the</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> VV</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">A</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, Slava, </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Spartak</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">...) and </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">"Siberia"</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">(E</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">nisei and</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Krasny Yar</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">). </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">He is now </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">in contact with the </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">IRB </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">on this issue. </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">But he has </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">an</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">enemy - the </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Russian winter</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">. If </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Moscow </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">is some how </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">tolerated </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">-10,</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"> but </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">in Siberia </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">(December</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, January) </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">will freeze </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">not only the French</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">, British,</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">and </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Russian </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">rugby players</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">. </span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Factor </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">2 </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">- is </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the distance </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">from Moscow to </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Krasnoyarsk, </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">4500 km.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Three </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">factor - the </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">union of </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the Enisei and </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">the Krasny </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Jar </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">- </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">is nonsense. </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">It is impossible </span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">to unite them</span></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">What did the Enisei and the Krasny Yar? </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">If you play in European competition is impossible. </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Krasny Yar has a contract with the New Zealanders, and the Enisei has recently signed an agreement with the Japanese (Panasonic Wild Knights).</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">It may be worth thinking about real participation of the Yenisei and the Red Jar in the Japanese League? T</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">op-14 runs in a circle (13 rounds) from September to December + playoffs. </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Russian Championship runs from May to September (maxsimum 22 games)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">If you dream of what to look for the season, the Siberian clubs:</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">January (holiday)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">February - April (preparation for the club season and the Russian national team matches)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">May - September (participation in the Russian Super League)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">September - December (part in the Japanese Top League, but without the right to participate in playoffs)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Climate. </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">If the Japanese would agree, the top-14 should be expanded to 16 clubs (hence the Yenisei and the Red Jar hold 15 games). </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">The first 8 rounds (7 times with the Japanese clubs and a derby) Yenisei and Krasny Yar play at home (September-October), and then go to Japan for two months (November-December) and 7 R with the Japanese</span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">You need to rent a training field, two hotels and stadiums in Japan. </span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Alternatively, find a place in regions where there are not clubs in the top 14. </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'"></span></span><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">But you need to this fantastic idea increase budgets by 1.5 times and refuse to participate in the Russian Championship Rugby-7 (or trains youth to participate.)</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="white bear, post: 479926, member: 57922"] I think that [COLOR=#333333]Russia-Georgia-Romania league is umpossible. This more distanse, visas for little club, very differente salarys. [/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]If we[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]do[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]so[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], then such[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]clubs as[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] Imperia[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], Novokuznetsk, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Spartak,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] Slava[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]..[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]die[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], as[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]will not be able[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]to find money for [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]international travel[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] S[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]urvive[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] 3-4 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Russian[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]club.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]We have no[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]way out,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]only to build[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]a strong professional[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]league, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]to increase the number[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]of clubs,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]inviting[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]strong[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]foreign players.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]To[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]clubs[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]2 and 3[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]tier[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]played against[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the VVA[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial],[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the Yenisei and [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the Krasny[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] Ya[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]r[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]A[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] 3 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]top[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]clubs[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], of course[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], you need[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]international [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]games to[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]also[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]grow.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]But[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]without reform of the[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Amlin[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]-[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]it's impossible.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]November[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]-December,[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]even in Moscow[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]can not[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]play rugby[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]It is necessary[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]to delay[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][URL="http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3"] [/URL] My answer about Kingsley Jones ides with 2 Rus franshise: [URL]http://www.therugbyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?25942-Russian-rugby/page3[/URL] [COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Rumor has it [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]that soon[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] VV[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]A [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial](where [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]to build [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]a new stadium[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], around [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]December 2012[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]).[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Kingsley [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Jones [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]wants to have [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]two [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]franchises[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], "[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Moscow" [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial](players[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] from[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] the[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] VV[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]A[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], Slava, [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Spartak[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]...) and [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]"Siberia"[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial](E[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]nisei and[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Krasny Yar[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]). [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]He is now [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]in contact with the [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]IRB [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]on this issue. [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]But he has [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]an[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]enemy - the [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Russian winter[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]. If [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Moscow [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]is some how [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]tolerated [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]-10,[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial] but [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]in Siberia [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial](December[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], January) [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]will freeze [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]not only the French[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial], British,[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]and [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Russian [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]rugby players[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]. [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Factor [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]2 [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]- is [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the distance [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]from Moscow to [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Krasnoyarsk, [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]4500 km. [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Three [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]factor - the [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]union of [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the Enisei and [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]the Krasny [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Jar [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]- [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]is nonsense. [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]It is impossible [/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]to unite them[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial].[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]What did the Enisei and the Krasny Yar? [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]If you play in European competition is impossible. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Krasny Yar has a contract with the New Zealanders, and the Enisei has recently signed an agreement with the Japanese (Panasonic Wild Knights). [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]It may be worth thinking about real participation of the Yenisei and the Red Jar in the Japanese League? T[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]op-14 runs in a circle (13 rounds) from September to December + playoffs. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Russian Championship runs from May to September (maxsimum 22 games) [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]If you dream of what to look for the season, the Siberian clubs: [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]January (holiday) [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]February - April (preparation for the club season and the Russian national team matches) [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]May - September (participation in the Russian Super League) [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]September - December (part in the Japanese Top League, but without the right to participate in playoffs) [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Climate. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]If the Japanese would agree, the top-14 should be expanded to 16 clubs (hence the Yenisei and the Red Jar hold 15 games). [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]The first 8 rounds (7 times with the Japanese clubs and a derby) Yenisei and Krasny Yar play at home (September-October), and then go to Japan for two months (November-December) and 7 R with the Japanese[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]You need to rent a training field, two hotels and stadiums in Japan. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]Alternatively, find a place in regions where there are not clubs in the top 14. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#333333][FONT=arial]But you need to this fantastic idea increase budgets by 1.5 times and refuse to participate in the Russian Championship Rugby-7 (or trains youth to participate.)[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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