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Changes Needed: Remove and Italian side and enter a Russian
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<blockquote data-quote="Croket66" data-source="post: 493285" data-attributes="member: 58839"><p>I understand what you want say.</p><p></p><p>But for example, Ma'a Nonu played in Top League before Auckland Blues, so the level of the Japan Top League is higher than Super Rugby?</p><p></p><p>Also, i follow you, </p><p>if Super Rugby is first division,</p><p>italian championship is division 2</p><p>AIB league is division 3</p><p>and Russian Super League division ... 4?</p><p></p><p>But explain me how last year, Enisey-STM won over L'Aquila 24-12 and Lazio 37-14, two clubs from italian first division.</p><p>Also, last year VVA won ahead FC Grenoble, a ProD2 club 45-40</p><p></p><p>Players who came in these clubs often have a good experience (SuperRugby, ITM Cup, 6 NationsB (Ukraine, Georgia) + 75% of the Russian national team),</p><p>and players who left these clubs plays now at the higher level (Artemyev for Northampton, Gresev and Korshunov for Wasps, Cobilas for Sale, Navickas will play for Bordeaux next year and 2 youngs NZ players from Krasny Yar are now playing for Crusaders Development XV.</p><p></p><p>This year Kransy Yar won ahead Crusaders Development XV (27-14), VVA loss against Northampton Wanderers (14-36) and loss against Sale Jets, who on the starting XV, 11 players have a Premiership experience this season, including Imiolek, Tuculet, Lewaravu, Addison or Auva`a (19-27)</p><p>Now, wait results for Connacht A. v. Enisey and Munster Development v. Enisey.</p><p></p><p>For 7 others clubs from Russian Super League, the level is lower, these clubs have some players from national team and some internationals from Moldova/Ukraine/Kazakhstan.</p><p></p><p>So, why russian big-3 can't play in Amlin Cup?</p><p></p><p>Also, in East Europe, only 4 teams have level to play Amlin Cup : the russian big-3 + Army Tbilissi.</p><p>Army Tbilissi is a Georgian team from the government. The club poach all best players from others georgian clubs and from french Federale, french U23 and Romanian teams.</p><p>In Romania, i don't see any club who have the level... maybe Timisoara (they have some NZ/Tonga/Samoa players + some members of the national team)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Croket66, post: 493285, member: 58839"] I understand what you want say. But for example, Ma'a Nonu played in Top League before Auckland Blues, so the level of the Japan Top League is higher than Super Rugby? Also, i follow you, if Super Rugby is first division, italian championship is division 2 AIB league is division 3 and Russian Super League division ... 4? But explain me how last year, Enisey-STM won over L'Aquila 24-12 and Lazio 37-14, two clubs from italian first division. Also, last year VVA won ahead FC Grenoble, a ProD2 club 45-40 Players who came in these clubs often have a good experience (SuperRugby, ITM Cup, 6 NationsB (Ukraine, Georgia) + 75% of the Russian national team), and players who left these clubs plays now at the higher level (Artemyev for Northampton, Gresev and Korshunov for Wasps, Cobilas for Sale, Navickas will play for Bordeaux next year and 2 youngs NZ players from Krasny Yar are now playing for Crusaders Development XV. This year Kransy Yar won ahead Crusaders Development XV (27-14), VVA loss against Northampton Wanderers (14-36) and loss against Sale Jets, who on the starting XV, 11 players have a Premiership experience this season, including Imiolek, Tuculet, Lewaravu, Addison or Auva`a (19-27) Now, wait results for Connacht A. v. Enisey and Munster Development v. Enisey. For 7 others clubs from Russian Super League, the level is lower, these clubs have some players from national team and some internationals from Moldova/Ukraine/Kazakhstan. So, why russian big-3 can't play in Amlin Cup? Also, in East Europe, only 4 teams have level to play Amlin Cup : the russian big-3 + Army Tbilissi. Army Tbilissi is a Georgian team from the government. The club poach all best players from others georgian clubs and from french Federale, french U23 and Romanian teams. In Romania, i don't see any club who have the level... maybe Timisoara (they have some NZ/Tonga/Samoa players + some members of the national team) [/QUOTE]
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