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<blockquote data-quote="Mcfadden" data-source="post: 738866" data-attributes="member: 72865"><p>Yeah, I agree with that. I thought about it before but didn't know how to articulate without it sounding wrong. I don't think people mind referees making the odd mistake, and they understand the human component. People make mistakes at my work all the time. But if you take Poite for example, some of the errors made in his judgement were just amateur hour stuff and that doesn't relate to players pushing the limits or 'cheating' within the interpretations given.</p><p></p><p>I mean, this is what sport is. You test the waters to see what you can get away with. Especially rugby where interpretations seem to vary. In part because we have referees playing in different hemispheres where two different styles of rugby get played. You try to get away with what works basically. It's a little utopian to think otherwise. Of course, there are some fundamental things which I deplore. Such as grubby antics off the ball (and on it for that matter), but that isn't what we're talking about here. I'm not sure how to explain it. You play competitively, towards the spirit of the game and you try things out. Is that technically cheating? I dunno, I don't really care because that can get into a philosophical argument. But I don't have a problem with it really. </p><p></p><p>What I have an issue with is some players being slapped with the 'cheater' tag in a very specific way. Then when you challenge it the accusers will say "no, every openside does it, it's just that XX is good at it" .. but they <strong>always</strong> pick on the same people. They never watch any other game, of any other openside flanker and make a point of it about someone else, regardless of how "good at it" they are. It's a cowardly argument dressed up as a self righteous one. Those accusers know what they're doing. They know what they're trying to say. And they know exactly which player in the southern hemisphere whos career they're trying to discredit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mcfadden, post: 738866, member: 72865"] Yeah, I agree with that. I thought about it before but didn't know how to articulate without it sounding wrong. I don't think people mind referees making the odd mistake, and they understand the human component. People make mistakes at my work all the time. But if you take Poite for example, some of the errors made in his judgement were just amateur hour stuff and that doesn't relate to players pushing the limits or 'cheating' within the interpretations given. I mean, this is what sport is. You test the waters to see what you can get away with. Especially rugby where interpretations seem to vary. In part because we have referees playing in different hemispheres where two different styles of rugby get played. You try to get away with what works basically. It's a little utopian to think otherwise. Of course, there are some fundamental things which I deplore. Such as grubby antics off the ball (and on it for that matter), but that isn't what we're talking about here. I'm not sure how to explain it. You play competitively, towards the spirit of the game and you try things out. Is that technically cheating? I dunno, I don't really care because that can get into a philosophical argument. But I don't have a problem with it really. What I have an issue with is some players being slapped with the 'cheater' tag in a very specific way. Then when you challenge it the accusers will say "no, every openside does it, it's just that XX is good at it" .. but they [B]always[/B] pick on the same people. They never watch any other game, of any other openside flanker and make a point of it about someone else, regardless of how "good at it" they are. It's a cowardly argument dressed up as a self righteous one. Those accusers know what they're doing. They know what they're trying to say. And they know exactly which player in the southern hemisphere whos career they're trying to discredit. [/QUOTE]
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