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The IRB will soon be advertising for a new referees manager as Paddy O’Brien is shifting sideways onto the Sevens circuit. The decision will be confirmed on Monday.

This will be presented by the IRB as O’Brien’s decision, and perhaps that’s exactly what it is. Certainly my understanding is that he had his fill of what is a very difficult job. And now he can move into the increasingly glamorous and easier-to-manage world of Sevens, which by the time we get to Rio in 2016 will be part of the Five Ring Circus and a box office game.

There won’t be a clamour for him to rethink the move. There was always disquiet in the IRB that he continued to base himself in Invercargill, hardly the epicentre of world rugby, and when this season’s Six Nations descended into wholesale controversy in its first week he wasn’t around to deal with it.

Fair enough, but my biggest issue with him was his failure to effect consistent and positive change among his refs on the issue of sealing ball off at the breakdown. It remains the greatest scourge in the game, the fact that for many players their first action when arriving to a tackle is to bridge over the ball with their hands on the ground.
It doesn’t require replays to pick it up, but it does a need a referee who will blow it up so often that the issue will be inescapable. That should have happened on Paddy’s O’Brien’s watch and it didn’t.

Certainly there was a problem with him laying down the law at international level and then refs dancing to a different tune in club competitions. So yes, there is a joint responsibility here, but the merit system which he championed was the most effective tool of all.

Ref managers Donal Courtney in the ERC and Lyndon Bray in Sanzar for example have exactly this issue to sort out in their own back yards. They were at the three day meeting this week with refereeing selectors, much of which focused on getting consistency around the world, but don’t think for a minute that a positive vibe from a meeting like that will result in a material change in how the game is refereed.

It will require a couple of weeks of mayhem to sort out, where referees are told they have the backing of their managers to go out and blow offenders off the park. There would be uproar. And quickly coaches would react, as would players, and the game would move on in much better shape.

This should have been Paddy O’Brien’s legacy. He had two World Cups under his control and a whole heap of Six Nations and Tri Nations games in between, and he made no impression on this critical area. Let’s see how the next fella fares out.

http://brendanfanningrugby.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/paddy-obrien-shifts-sideways/
 
I don't know where Brendan Fanny gets his facts from but AIUI he is wrong on a number of counts, not the least of which is......

[TEXTAREA]The IRB will soon be advertising for a new referees manager as Paddy O’Brien is shifting sideways onto the Sevens circuit. The decision will be confirmed on Monday.[/TEXTAREA]

Wrong. No-one will be replacing POB as iRB Referees Manager. Instead, the restructure means that the post is disestablished, and replaced with a Management Committee (Lyndon Bray, Tappe Hanning, Donal Courtney and Clayton Thomas).

Also, I see POB's move more as a promotion than as a move sideways. To be leading Referee Management, training and selection in the lead up to the Olympic Games in 2016; the greatest sporting event on the planet, bar none, surely has to be a feather in his cap, and it has come at just the right time. Some of the Sevens refereeing has been bloody awful in the past couple of seasons, and POB is just the man to start rattling some cages on that front.

In any case, its the ultimate compliment isn't it; the realisation by the iRB that POB did such a fantastic job, they actually need FOUR people to replace him.
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In addition to the Referee Management restructure, it has also escaped Mr Fanny's attention, that there are some top referees who have been dropped from the iRB's "A" Panel. They are...

Wayne Barnes (England)
Bryce Lawrence (New Zealand)
Dave Pearson (England)

The Full panel that will be announced on Monday is..

George Clancy (Ireland)
Jérôme Garcès (France)
Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Nigel Owens (Wales)
Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Chris Pollock (New Zealand)
Romain Poite (France)
Alain Rolland (Ireland)
Steve Walsh (Australia)
 
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Wrong. No-one will be replacing POB as iRB Referees Manager. Instead, the restructure means that the post is disestablished, and replaced with a Management Committee (Lyndon Bray, Tappe Hanning, Donal Courtney and Clayton Thomas).

Down the bottom of this IRB release, they seem to imply at some point in the future they will be looking for a new referee manager. I think the 4 guys listed are just doing all the selecting. Or maybe 1 of them will eventually be chosen to take on the full time role?

http://www.irb.com/newsmedia/mediazone/pressrelease/newsid=2061606.html

The process for replacing O’Brien will be announced in due course.


I like the job Bray is doing with the super15. I'm glad he is getting more involved with the test refereeing action.
 
In addition to the Referee Management restructure, it has also escaped Mr Fanny's attention, that there are some top referees who have been dropped from the iRB's "A" Panel. They are...

Wayne Barnes (England)
Bryce Lawrence (New Zealand)
Wow. Surprising...

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I've been quite impressed by Chris Pollock from what i've seen, good on him for getting the promotion. Bryce Lawrence should be reffing ITM cup or heartlands championship, surely one of the most inept referees there has been in the pro era. We all know how he's gotten to where he has...
 
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Wayne Barnes being left out is ridiculous, especially when Walsh, Rolland, Garcares and Clancy are still in. I really don't see why the IRB are so persistent with Steve Walsh. He's the least competent ref I've ever seen in international rugby.
 
harsh on Barnes, he's at least as good as Clancy, but Bryce Lawrence was terrible not just in that RWC QF but before as well he didn't deserve a spot in the top league of refs, neither did Pearson who is one of the worst refs of the non English speaking nations there is

but I feel they just give each top nation a token ref in the top list (although England have missed out for this list surprisingly), for example I bet there were better refs than Lawrence around the world when he was added but they just put him in to make sure there was a New Zealander on the list, and made sure he was replaced by a New Zealander

also does anybody know whether it is possible for a minor country ref to get in the top panel? do they even give them a chance to get there?

for example the referee who has been named best in Japan for the last several seasons and has refereed in the ITM Cup, has he been considered? there is a video on him below

 
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I can't imagine there'll be much change when the switch is made. I imagine that the comitee will find it very hard to come to agreements and they'll all be quite conservative anyway.

Great news that Pearson and Barnes aren't going to be reffing internationally any more, two very poor refs.
 
The Full panel that will be announced on Monday is..

George Clancy (Ireland)
Jérôme Garcès (France)
Craig Joubert (South Africa)
Nigel Owens (Wales)
Jaco Peyper (South Africa)
Chris Pollock (New Zealand)
Romain Poite (France)
Alain Rolland (Ireland)
Steve Walsh (Australia)

I just read this part again... and I see that Jonathan Kaplan is not on this list... is that a typo or has he also been fired??
 
He was useless anyway. Probably the most inconsistant referee I've ever seen.

I think that is a bit harsh... but okay, whatever floats your boat... I guess if we can say things of Steve Walsh, Bryce Lawrence and POD, then I guess you can have a go at Kaplan...

I'm asking as there is nothing in any news article saying what happened to him???
 
I don't really know much about the rules in 7s and the extent to which they differ from the 15 man game, but is it wasy for a ref to adapt and is there any ref's dedicated to the 7s circuit?
 
I don't really know much about the rules in 7s and the extent to which they differ from the 15 man game, but is it wasy for a ref to adapt and is there any ref's dedicated to the 7s circuit?

It's pretty easy to adapt not really any huge differences and the ruck and scrum are much easier to ref. I know that but not sure about dedicated 7s refs though I think there are a few don't quote me on it.
 

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