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<blockquote data-quote="Bada-Bing!" data-source="post: 1041178" data-attributes="member: 70552"><p>The way I understand it with Covid and the variants there are 2 main issues: </p><p></p><p>1. The transmissibility. The Delta variant is at around 40% more than the Alpha variant. </p><p></p><p>2. Severity of cases. Because we got hit badly with the Alpha variant and although hospitalisations are currently flat, We are just waiting on data for whether riding Delta cases translate to hospitalisations. </p><p></p><p>The Spectrum is: </p><p></p><p>Asymptomatic < mild symptoms< moderate < serious < severe (hospitalisation) < death!</p><p></p><p>Vaccines and restrictions have been. effective so far in drastically reducing severe/hospitalisations and in turn deaths. </p><p></p><p>The UK are now in the position where half of adults have received both doses. And half have not ie received 1 or none. </p><p></p><p>Peeps are against a vaccine passport or mechanism for showing showing a negative test because it discriminates against those who haven't had a dose yet or both, but nothing stopping them getting a LFT and logging negative test result (twice weekly needed?), as an alternative to vaccine and if need have a real time passport. Yes, LFTs not comfortable and needs to be done properly with PCRs, if positive. Also cost of PCRs. </p><p></p><p>21 June is not set in stone and doesn't need to be. Can push it back until at least 70% of adults received both doses and/or with restrictions such as social distancing/ face masks (not a huge sacrifice as far as I am concerned) WFH if you can. </p><p></p><p>Also with vaccine passports EU expected to have their digital certificate to allow travel between member states by end of June. But UK still ummimg and ahhing about using the NHS app for use in UK to get people back into events/open up economy and travel abroad?! And sticks with stupid Green/Amber/Red lists. Red list and Amber should be merged.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bada-Bing!, post: 1041178, member: 70552"] The way I understand it with Covid and the variants there are 2 main issues: 1. The transmissibility. The Delta variant is at around 40% more than the Alpha variant. 2. Severity of cases. Because we got hit badly with the Alpha variant and although hospitalisations are currently flat, We are just waiting on data for whether riding Delta cases translate to hospitalisations. The Spectrum is: Asymptomatic < mild symptoms< moderate < serious < severe (hospitalisation) < death! Vaccines and restrictions have been. effective so far in drastically reducing severe/hospitalisations and in turn deaths. The UK are now in the position where half of adults have received both doses. And half have not ie received 1 or none. Peeps are against a vaccine passport or mechanism for showing showing a negative test because it discriminates against those who haven’t had a dose yet or both, but nothing stopping them getting a LFT and logging negative test result (twice weekly needed?), as an alternative to vaccine and if need have a real time passport. Yes, LFTs not comfortable and needs to be done properly with PCRs, if positive. Also cost of PCRs. 21 June is not set in stone and doesn’t need to be. Can push it back until at least 70% of adults received both doses and/or with restrictions such as social distancing/ face masks (not a huge sacrifice as far as I am concerned) WFH if you can. Also with vaccine passports EU expected to have their digital certificate to allow travel between member states by end of June. But UK still ummimg and ahhing about using the NHS app for use in UK to get people back into events/open up economy and travel abroad?! And sticks with stupid Green/Amber/Red lists. Red list and Amber should be merged. [/QUOTE]
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