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<blockquote data-quote="Bruce_ma gooshvili" data-source="post: 1070407" data-attributes="member: 74121"><p>More signs of China being stuck in a corner. Wear masks and gloves when opening mail. Seems a strange move given their official stance (unverified) is that Sinovac does the business against Omicron. </p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/china-suspects-covid-19-might-arrive-overseas-mail-2022-01-18/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Sputnik developers also coming out yesterday saying their vaccine is better against Omicron than any previous variant, which would make it a world first. Again unverified and inconsistent with independent study.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-17/sinopharm-j-j-sputnik-shots-weaken-against-omicron-study-sees[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Hopefully it is the case that Sinovac and Sputnik do provide some at least some protection against severe disease. I'm not aware of any country other than Russia or China that is wholly dependent on the above vaccines and wouldn't rely on the fatality data for those two vaccines - so I don't think it is going to be possible to make a reasonable assessment of the impact of Omicron on populations without Pfizer & Moderna. </p><p></p><p>Check out Russia's stats below. I admittedly don't know how they are calculating things but they appear to be the only nation to avoid Covid 'waves' (sharp peaks and troughs) and seasonal variations. If anything, they can record more deaths in summer than in winter. </p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bruce_ma gooshvili, post: 1070407, member: 74121"] More signs of China being stuck in a corner. Wear masks and gloves when opening mail. Seems a strange move given their official stance (unverified) is that Sinovac does the business against Omicron. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/china-suspects-covid-19-might-arrive-overseas-mail-2022-01-18/[/URL] Sputnik developers also coming out yesterday saying their vaccine is better against Omicron than any previous variant, which would make it a world first. Again unverified and inconsistent with independent study. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-17/sinopharm-j-j-sputnik-shots-weaken-against-omicron-study-sees[/URL] Hopefully it is the case that Sinovac and Sputnik do provide some at least some protection against severe disease. I'm not aware of any country other than Russia or China that is wholly dependent on the above vaccines and wouldn't rely on the fatality data for those two vaccines - so I don't think it is going to be possible to make a reasonable assessment of the impact of Omicron on populations without Pfizer & Moderna. Check out Russia's stats below. I admittedly don't know how they are calculating things but they appear to be the only nation to avoid Covid 'waves' (sharp peaks and troughs) and seasonal variations. If anything, they can record more deaths in summer than in winter. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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