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<blockquote data-quote="Reiser99" data-source="post: 995981" data-attributes="member: 72977"><p>Tbh I understand the logic of having someone available to look after a small child if the parents are very ill. I'm not sure how accurate the facts are, but they might make sense if all true. (I personally wouldn't believe Cummings). Even the SAGE representative today made the point that within the lockdown safeguarding has to be take into account.</p><p></p><p>The key issue for me is that it's so hypocritical as none of this was ever made clear within the guidance and many parents who could have benefited from something similar struggled because they thought they were doing the right thing and helping the country. On top many parents couldn't do this even if they wanted to, so parents who have struggled with no option can just see wealth being treated differently.</p><p></p><p>For me it's the moral and ethical grounds where this is an issue, rather than a technical one over breaching guidance or the law. Many people are outraged because they've wanted to (and some could have) do the same or something similar, but have instead followed the guidance and rules only to see those in power ignore it. </p><p></p><p>The key here is not whether left leaning voters who don't vote Tory get outraged, but if right-wing Tory supporters do. My mum who has voted Tory (and has considered voting UKIP/Brexit Party) for as long as I can remember has said she'll never vote Tory again. If there is a clear wave of outrage, especially amongst older grandparents who haven't seen their grandchildren, then that really will put pressure on Johnson.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reiser99, post: 995981, member: 72977"] Tbh I understand the logic of having someone available to look after a small child if the parents are very ill. I'm not sure how accurate the facts are, but they might make sense if all true. (I personally wouldn't believe Cummings). Even the SAGE representative today made the point that within the lockdown safeguarding has to be take into account. The key issue for me is that it's so hypocritical as none of this was ever made clear within the guidance and many parents who could have benefited from something similar struggled because they thought they were doing the right thing and helping the country. On top many parents couldn't do this even if they wanted to, so parents who have struggled with no option can just see wealth being treated differently. For me it's the moral and ethical grounds where this is an issue, rather than a technical one over breaching guidance or the law. Many people are outraged because they've wanted to (and some could have) do the same or something similar, but have instead followed the guidance and rules only to see those in power ignore it. The key here is not whether left leaning voters who don't vote Tory get outraged, but if right-wing Tory supporters do. My mum who has voted Tory (and has considered voting UKIP/Brexit Party) for as long as I can remember has said she'll never vote Tory again. If there is a clear wave of outrage, especially amongst older grandparents who haven't seen their grandchildren, then that really will put pressure on Johnson. [/QUOTE]
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