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<blockquote data-quote="Vieux Talonneur" data-source="post: 1082228" data-attributes="member: 73144"><p>Judging where players stand in the overall pantheon is just part of the fun. We disagree slightly now and everyone always becomes a much better player the moment they retire. I think that we can safely agree that most of the Eng teams he's played in would have been a lot worse without his runs.</p><p></p><p>Agree totally on the captaincy…..international arena is no place to do your basic training.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vieux Talonneur, post: 1082228, member: 73144"] Judging where players stand in the overall pantheon is just part of the fun. We disagree slightly now and everyone always becomes a much better player the moment they retire. I think that we can safely agree that most of the Eng teams he’s played in would have been a lot worse without his runs. Agree totally on the captaincy…..international arena is no place to do your basic training. [/QUOTE]
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