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Does Super Rugby form genuinely affect test selection?
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<blockquote data-quote="Penne Rara" data-source="post: 859957" data-attributes="member: 74680"><p>What you and me see when we watch the television isn't the same reality as what happens in the camp. Some players are extremely involved during trainings and others do nothing, or don't deliver enough even though they still put in strong performances on match day. On the long run, work rate is a better indicator of fitness, discipline and personal involvement than natural talent and xfactor. These players are often all razzle dazzle but everything else is lacking. I'm not saying it's the case for some of these All Blacks, but I feel like Julian Savea isn't the same motivated fella he once was. This has implications on the way he performs both during trainings and matches. This year, I haven't seen him get a lot of ball, I haven't seen him perform up to ABs standards, he doesn't have enough stamina for a winger and isn't reliable under high balls. Maybe it doesn't tell all the story, but the coaches know enough to select him or not. And Ioane getting the nod is because he puts his hand up during each training session, and goes 100%. I've just read an article about him beating Beauden at a sprint session. Obviously he also has a lot of potential and Savea has long gone past his peak... But ultimately, Hansen will have preferred Rieko because he's already proven that he can cope against the Lions' tactics. Julian will be a liability if he is up against high balls and tight play. </p><p></p><p>You could say the same about SBW. I didn't rate him much because I thought he only relied upon his talent, but he does put in the hard yards. I'm not entirely convinced about his defense though, but time will tell if Hansen made the right choice at 12.</p><p></p><p>Experience is another factor to take into account. When pressure stacks up, a young player may crack under it while a more experienced player will still keep a cool head and be reliable til the end. Bender is a logical choice over the young Jordie, and even if I rate him heaps, it would be much too dangerous to leave him out in the cold. The same applies for Laumape. He has never played for the All Blacks, and as talented as he is, he will surely panic when things don't go his way. And if he does keep his composure, the Lions will surely target his channel... That's a risky gamble and sometimes you want to play it safe.</p><p></p><p>As for Aaron v TJ, that's a whole other story. Using halfbacks in the ABs is a two-part plan. </p><p>Smith plays under a lot of structure. He knows when to snipe, when to pass in a 1-3-3-1 formation, in a 2-4-2 formation, he knows when his forwards have to pick and go, he knows when to chip kick, when to kick in the box. By varying his game, he can put some pressure on the Lions and try to force mistakes. His quick passing game gives more time to his backs and allows them to see where the Lions are vulnerable. This is the first part of the plan. </p><p>When the Lions are softened, let TJ come in. He is quick-minded and will bring to the halfback position what Beauden Barrett brings as a 10: flair. He attacks whatever opportunity he lays his eyes on. His inventive and explosive running game will shatter the opposition to pieces.</p><p></p><p>I personally prefer TJ, but I agree with Hansen for putting him on the bench. He is a necessary super-sub and will change the pace of the game in the blink of an eye.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Penne Rara, post: 859957, member: 74680"] What you and me see when we watch the television isn't the same reality as what happens in the camp. Some players are extremely involved during trainings and others do nothing, or don't deliver enough even though they still put in strong performances on match day. On the long run, work rate is a better indicator of fitness, discipline and personal involvement than natural talent and xfactor. These players are often all razzle dazzle but everything else is lacking. I'm not saying it's the case for some of these All Blacks, but I feel like Julian Savea isn't the same motivated fella he once was. This has implications on the way he performs both during trainings and matches. This year, I haven't seen him get a lot of ball, I haven't seen him perform up to ABs standards, he doesn't have enough stamina for a winger and isn't reliable under high balls. Maybe it doesn't tell all the story, but the coaches know enough to select him or not. And Ioane getting the nod is because he puts his hand up during each training session, and goes 100%. I've just read an article about him beating Beauden at a sprint session. Obviously he also has a lot of potential and Savea has long gone past his peak... But ultimately, Hansen will have preferred Rieko because he's already proven that he can cope against the Lions' tactics. Julian will be a liability if he is up against high balls and tight play. You could say the same about SBW. I didn't rate him much because I thought he only relied upon his talent, but he does put in the hard yards. I'm not entirely convinced about his defense though, but time will tell if Hansen made the right choice at 12. Experience is another factor to take into account. When pressure stacks up, a young player may crack under it while a more experienced player will still keep a cool head and be reliable til the end. Bender is a logical choice over the young Jordie, and even if I rate him heaps, it would be much too dangerous to leave him out in the cold. The same applies for Laumape. He has never played for the All Blacks, and as talented as he is, he will surely panic when things don't go his way. And if he does keep his composure, the Lions will surely target his channel... That's a risky gamble and sometimes you want to play it safe. As for Aaron v TJ, that's a whole other story. Using halfbacks in the ABs is a two-part plan. Smith plays under a lot of structure. He knows when to snipe, when to pass in a 1-3-3-1 formation, in a 2-4-2 formation, he knows when his forwards have to pick and go, he knows when to chip kick, when to kick in the box. By varying his game, he can put some pressure on the Lions and try to force mistakes. His quick passing game gives more time to his backs and allows them to see where the Lions are vulnerable. This is the first part of the plan. When the Lions are softened, let TJ come in. He is quick-minded and will bring to the halfback position what Beauden Barrett brings as a 10: flair. He attacks whatever opportunity he lays his eyes on. His inventive and explosive running game will shatter the opposition to pieces. I personally prefer TJ, but I agree with Hansen for putting him on the bench. He is a necessary super-sub and will change the pace of the game in the blink of an eye. [/QUOTE]
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