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<blockquote data-quote="ranger" data-source="post: 433808" data-attributes="member: 40555"><p>A win is a win indeed, and you can't blame teams for wanting to win and finding the most efficient way for them to do it etc. </p><p>Obviously this is just a personal opinion, but i just think that tries should be the aim of the game.. Its more fun to play with that mentality and its better to watch. Penalties have their place in the game of punishing foul play and that's more than fair enough. Drop goals have their place too, but i just think that that place should be as a means of separating close scores at the end of games (I think Wilkinson's dropgoal is the greatest moment in WC just by the by). What im not a fan of is using dropgoals as a points accumulator, its just boring and not what i think of when i imagine rugby. </p><p></p><p>You say yourself, if attractive rugby and winning culminates then we have a fantastic game. bang on. Then why do you encourage winning by scoring 8 dropgoals in a game?</p><p></p><p>As for not minding if the All Blacks win by kicking, <em>YOU COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH IF YOU TRIED.</em> I have been ripped into for not being a "true fan" in the past, the reason being that i would rather watch my team lose a free flowing game than win with kicks. Especially if you're only watching it.. If i get up at 4 in the morning for a match, i want to watch a goddammed spectacle. If i were to watch the All Blacks win by nudging DGs, i would be <em>****** off.</em> Sure they win, but what do i personally gain as an individual from that? nothing. ive just wasted 80 minutes of my life watching something boring. **** that. </p><p></p><p>A little anecdote; This year my coach was an old school English dude, used to play for the Harlequins in the 80s. Hes a tough guy and has a rigid "points on the board" mentality.. always kick a penalty if given the option, look for drop goals once you're past the 10, pick and goes and crash balls all day for momentum, never offload or throw risky passes, 3 phase set up minimum before you think about going wide (and even then, dont) etc etc.. </p><p>This tactic may or may not have got us wins, but my perspective was that if i was trudging along to practice 2 nights a week and giving up drinking on friday nights for rugby, i didn't want to spend every game setting up and chasing kicks. Thats boring and gay. </p><p>So, being the captain, i would just play his game at practice, nod my head when he went over the game plan in the sheds, and then once we got into the huddle before kickoff i would just tell everyone to play instinctively and throw it around. </p><p>Suffice to say i didn't end the season as captain, we didnt make the finals and i wasn't nominated for any of the rep trials. We scored some stunning tries though (just ask Nickdnz) and i don't regret any decision i made one bit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ranger, post: 433808, member: 40555"] A win is a win indeed, and you can't blame teams for wanting to win and finding the most efficient way for them to do it etc. Obviously this is just a personal opinion, but i just think that tries should be the aim of the game.. Its more fun to play with that mentality and its better to watch. Penalties have their place in the game of punishing foul play and that's more than fair enough. Drop goals have their place too, but i just think that that place should be as a means of separating close scores at the end of games (I think Wilkinson's dropgoal is the greatest moment in WC just by the by). What im not a fan of is using dropgoals as a points accumulator, its just boring and not what i think of when i imagine rugby. You say yourself, if attractive rugby and winning culminates then we have a fantastic game. bang on. Then why do you encourage winning by scoring 8 dropgoals in a game? As for not minding if the All Blacks win by kicking, [I]YOU COULD NOT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH IF YOU TRIED.[/I] I have been ripped into for not being a "true fan" in the past, the reason being that i would rather watch my team lose a free flowing game than win with kicks. Especially if you're only watching it.. If i get up at 4 in the morning for a match, i want to watch a goddammed spectacle. If i were to watch the All Blacks win by nudging DGs, i would be [I]****** off.[/I] Sure they win, but what do i personally gain as an individual from that? nothing. ive just wasted 80 minutes of my life watching something boring. **** that. A little anecdote; This year my coach was an old school English dude, used to play for the Harlequins in the 80s. Hes a tough guy and has a rigid "points on the board" mentality.. always kick a penalty if given the option, look for drop goals once you're past the 10, pick and goes and crash balls all day for momentum, never offload or throw risky passes, 3 phase set up minimum before you think about going wide (and even then, dont) etc etc.. This tactic may or may not have got us wins, but my perspective was that if i was trudging along to practice 2 nights a week and giving up drinking on friday nights for rugby, i didn't want to spend every game setting up and chasing kicks. Thats boring and gay. So, being the captain, i would just play his game at practice, nod my head when he went over the game plan in the sheds, and then once we got into the huddle before kickoff i would just tell everyone to play instinctively and throw it around. Suffice to say i didn't end the season as captain, we didnt make the finals and i wasn't nominated for any of the rep trials. We scored some stunning tries though (just ask Nickdnz) and i don't regret any decision i made one bit. [/QUOTE]
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