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<blockquote data-quote="munstermuffin" data-source="post: 298316"><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Jan 13 2010, 08:17 PM) <a href="http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=431854" target="_blank"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div></p><p></p><p>To all the Borthwick haters, why do you think he's so bad? He's a lineout specialist lock, and England's lineout is very good, so he does his job well. Because he's captain, people expect him to do the job of a brute 2nd row as well (like Shaw, or Lawes). Maybe he's not up to O'Connell or Matfield's level, but he's a far better player than Kennedy, and there's no one else after that.</p><p></p><p>Unless of course you went with Shaw and Lawes in the 2nd row. But then I'd think our lineout would suffer.</p><p></p><p>Borthwick as captain... he may not be the greatest, but he's as good as we've got. Easter could do it maybe, but he's not certain of his place, and he's also not even captain at Quins. Can't think of anyone in the backline to do it either. If Hartley comes through and establishes himself in the starting XV, maybe he's an option as well.</p><p>[/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>It not that I don't like him as I do recognize he captain at a bad time but think he just doesnt bring his Sarries form to England and when I was judging maybe that was my fault judging his form agaist others untested form at International level.</p><p></p><p>And as far as been captain of National team and not club -> Brian O'Driscoll. And when he dropped captaincy of Leinster he just went to a new level.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="munstermuffin, post: 298316"] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Jan 13 2010, 08:17 PM) [url='index.php?act=findpost&pid=431854']<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/url]</div> To all the Borthwick haters, why do you think he's so bad? He's a lineout specialist lock, and England's lineout is very good, so he does his job well. Because he's captain, people expect him to do the job of a brute 2nd row as well (like Shaw, or Lawes). Maybe he's not up to O'Connell or Matfield's level, but he's a far better player than Kennedy, and there's no one else after that. Unless of course you went with Shaw and Lawes in the 2nd row. But then I'd think our lineout would suffer. Borthwick as captain... he may not be the greatest, but he's as good as we've got. Easter could do it maybe, but he's not certain of his place, and he's also not even captain at Quins. Can't think of anyone in the backline to do it either. If Hartley comes through and establishes himself in the starting XV, maybe he's an option as well. [/b][/quote] It not that I don't like him as I do recognize he captain at a bad time but think he just doesnt bring his Sarries form to England and when I was judging maybe that was my fault judging his form agaist others untested form at International level. And as far as been captain of National team and not club -> Brian O'Driscoll. And when he dropped captaincy of Leinster he just went to a new level. [/QUOTE]
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