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Yep. I think Steward is getting a particularly harsh assessment here.
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A second choice front row that started all the Argentina
5 back rows if anything is the opposite considering he’s only playing them due to the caps. If curry wasn’t curry I highly doubt borthwick would’ve gone for the split.
He didn’t play pollock on the wing either so the rest of pollock covering the backs means nothing.
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I'm catching up on the game now and already seen this. That's a ******* 6 or 7 on 2 and we butcher it. This really is unacceptable at international level...
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OK but a truly 'cautious' coach picks the Lions straight away and probably starts Curry over Pepper.
He's not gung-ho and never will be, but as I said before the reputation for extreme caution is not accurate.
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Not that I'll give a pass on this because that is set up for guaranteed try(unless Potter gets underneither it
).Curious to see who made the mistake as Ford is waiting and looks ready, did he not call or did mitchell make the wrong choice or did the receiver choose to carry rather than offload out to Ford?
But I bet in every game and even this we can see a few occasions like this where a one pass or one different decision was almost a guarenteed try. Also we know the caliber of attack coach Blackett is, dont you think he will be ripping them a new one over stuff like this.
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I don't think that one was a coach issue, I think it's a players making the wrong decisions under pressure issue. They mucked up the first pass but even after that still had an overlap, which they then mucked up again with EXACTLY the same mistake (pass to the nearest 1 out runner and not the guys in space). To butcher a huge overlaps 5m out not once but twice with identical errors is inexcusable.Not that I'll give a pass on this because that is set up for guaranteed try(unless Potter gets underneither it
Curious to see who made the mistake as Ford is waiting and looks ready, did he not call or did mitchell make the wrong choice or did the receiver choose to carry rather than offload out to Ford?
But I bet in every game and even this we can see a few occasions like this where a one pass or one different decision was almost a guarenteed try. Also we know the caliber of attack coach Blackett is, dont you think he will be ripping them a new one over stuff like this.
90% of your prem clubs score from there.
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I'm not disagreeing with that, Mitchell saw a crash ball runner and went with that, did ford not call loud enough, did Mitchell ignore him, if so Why? Who had the lack of vision? And if they don't do it for their clubs like that then what's different?
It's a players issue but good coaching and analysis can really help a players decision making in the situations, it's an individual issue but a coach like Blackett could help figure out why it happens and coach it out of them. That was my point
Also Mitchell passed to someone running onto the ball and maybe thought in that second he would draw a defender and tip it to ford, so maybe Mitchell made the right decision and the receiver was wrong.
Individual mistake but can be fixed by cohesion and good coaching.
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Re Steward - my simple take on the FB position is he needs wingers pace, without that there are always going to be limitations. Look at the top FBs over the years like Folau and Cullen, seriously quick and they just added an extra dimension to the backline. Whatever England gain from Stewards high ball ability they lose in attacking prowess. Mike Brown gets a lot of kudos, but whenever I saw him play, he didn't impress me. Solid, dependable, would catch the ball beat one, maybe two tacklers then taken down. I think he scored 13 tries in 70 tests, Cullen scored 46 tries in 58 tests. Maybe that's an unfair comparison, but Brown's scoring ratio, perhaps, exemplifies his lack of attacking ability. Stick Arundull in there. Imagine him hitting the line at pace in broken play, 30m out. Unstoppable.
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Cullen was world class and despite a relatively short career, is probably in the conversation for ‘best ever’. Not really a fair comparison with Mike Brown. He was a very good, committed and reliable 15 for England, but literally no-one would put him in the same league as Cullen (or Folau for that matter).
Unless Arundell is playing 15 on a regular basis and developing the solidity under the high ball and defensive positioning he currently lacks, he’s not a viable option. Have a great broken-field attacking skillset is only half the picture.
Unless Arundell is playing 15 on a regular basis and developing the solidity under the high ball and defensive positioning he currently lacks, he’s not a viable option. Have a great broken-field attacking skillset is only half the picture.
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I think Steward fits against certain teams. Wouldn't want him v NZ or Argentina (maybe Scotland too considering their knack for linebreaks v Emgland) if I was English but other teams either won't have the pace to expose him (Ireland) or have a short back three that he can expose in return (SA, Oz).
Still not sure how he hasn't found his way into the midfield at all considering that's comfortably England's weakest area imo.
Still not sure how he hasn't found his way into the midfield at all considering that's comfortably England's weakest area imo.
Probably a bit of club vs country
Tigers are well stocked at 12, and he goes very well at 15 for them - they're never gonna shift him unless there's a serious injury crisis, so England aren't gonna look at a player with zero game time in a positional switch (actually SB might, but he'll move him to scrumhalf or something)
i think Steward has taken a bit of a bashing on various social media sites etc. I dont think its warranted. He was part of a strong aggressive defence for the most part.
Do i see Steward as the long term answer to the 15 spot...i just dont know, and probably say no. But we're struggling a bit there with Furbank having big injury problems, Marcus still a work in progress, Carpenter out injured etc.
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It is a bit concerning that the linesman was running faster than Steward
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Linesman's rubbish in the air though...
Tandy will be calling him up by the end of the AIsIt is a bit concerning that the linesman was running faster than Steward
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I’m guessing some if not most of the front 5 might be as well…especially if there is a free buffet on offer at the end of the raceIt is a bit concerning that the linesman was running faster than Steward
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Steward has taken a bashing because the one thing he excelled at he didn’t in the first half, I get it, I get it, no blocking lines on the receiving end of a high balls is now much harder, but if your pretty ineffective with your long standing USP and bang average in other departments then what’s the point, I feel harsh saying it really, he seems like a nice chap, probably more Borthwick, most know Steward simply isn’t international quality.
