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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 671649" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>Yes we have. Is this even a serious question? Your next paragraph seems to suggest agreement with the premise. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, I never said it was down to one person did I? My point was it's rather odd for the whole team to take a step forwards in general while we take a step back in the attacking qualities of our 12. That doesn't add up. Nor does it add up for the role to be so important and Barritt so good at it that England have failed to recognise it and reinstate Barritt (while rushing back Twelvetrees from injury once and picking Twelvetrees after not training for a week at least once). Ok, maybe it does add up that the England coaching team would fail to notice such things, but it doesn't aid the logic that they'll see the light.</p><p></p><p>And I remember the amount of bad options they took in the second test... and against Italy when we needed an uber score... and against Scotland when we could have spared the need for the Italian uber score... and pretty much every England match in recent memory. I'm not raving about this backline. But it's been better this year than the year before; and, while they do make plenty of bad decisions in promising positions, at least they reach them promising positions to begin with. Twelvetrees break and suicide offload is a prime example of that really; barring the miracle match against a not very well NZ, the backline of Barritt's time simply didn't make many breaks like that.</p><p></p><p>I'm not out here to declare Twelvetrees is a wonder player who must be picked or anything like that. But what I am declaring is that a lot of people are overlooking what England have been doing and what they are looking for. I also think people are overlooking the shortcomings of bosh only rugby as shown by Gatland's Wales. And people are definitely whitewashing Twelvetrees' achievements in the shirt, such as the partnership with Farrell that ended the Six Nations on such a high note, or <a href="http://www.espn.co.uk/statsguru/rugby/match/173972.html" target="_blank">being one of our most effective attacking players vs New Zealand</a>. It was Twelvetrees who released Brown for his try in the second test as well, very good example of the understanding him and Farrell have built up - both take it to the line well too.</p><p></p><p>Do I want Twelvetrees picked for the next tests? Not sure, the inconsistency thing is a real worry. Do I think people should be completely writing him out of the picture? I find that very silly indeed. </p><p></p><p>As for the elements clicking together... personally I am on the belief that a 12 who can do more than bend the gain line a little has been a huge aid to our forwards getting go forwards ball. And if Burrell is a 13 who releases his outside backs, then I am the Archbishop of Banterbury. Man and ball on the touch line time and time again? That's not what I'd call releasing... mindyou, Barritt was the same. Not what I'd expect for players being talked up as great at straightening up and distributing from the gain line really.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 671649, member: 42330"] Yes we have. Is this even a serious question? Your next paragraph seems to suggest agreement with the premise. Now, I never said it was down to one person did I? My point was it's rather odd for the whole team to take a step forwards in general while we take a step back in the attacking qualities of our 12. That doesn't add up. Nor does it add up for the role to be so important and Barritt so good at it that England have failed to recognise it and reinstate Barritt (while rushing back Twelvetrees from injury once and picking Twelvetrees after not training for a week at least once). Ok, maybe it does add up that the England coaching team would fail to notice such things, but it doesn't aid the logic that they'll see the light. And I remember the amount of bad options they took in the second test... and against Italy when we needed an uber score... and against Scotland when we could have spared the need for the Italian uber score... and pretty much every England match in recent memory. I'm not raving about this backline. But it's been better this year than the year before; and, while they do make plenty of bad decisions in promising positions, at least they reach them promising positions to begin with. Twelvetrees break and suicide offload is a prime example of that really; barring the miracle match against a not very well NZ, the backline of Barritt's time simply didn't make many breaks like that. I'm not out here to declare Twelvetrees is a wonder player who must be picked or anything like that. But what I am declaring is that a lot of people are overlooking what England have been doing and what they are looking for. I also think people are overlooking the shortcomings of bosh only rugby as shown by Gatland's Wales. And people are definitely whitewashing Twelvetrees' achievements in the shirt, such as the partnership with Farrell that ended the Six Nations on such a high note, or [URL="http://www.espn.co.uk/statsguru/rugby/match/173972.html"]being one of our most effective attacking players vs New Zealand[/URL]. It was Twelvetrees who released Brown for his try in the second test as well, very good example of the understanding him and Farrell have built up - both take it to the line well too. Do I want Twelvetrees picked for the next tests? Not sure, the inconsistency thing is a real worry. Do I think people should be completely writing him out of the picture? I find that very silly indeed. As for the elements clicking together... personally I am on the belief that a 12 who can do more than bend the gain line a little has been a huge aid to our forwards getting go forwards ball. And if Burrell is a 13 who releases his outside backs, then I am the Archbishop of Banterbury. Man and ball on the touch line time and time again? That's not what I'd call releasing... mindyou, Barritt was the same. Not what I'd expect for players being talked up as great at straightening up and distributing from the gain line really. [/QUOTE]
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