I think Le Roux has been better than Habana, not that Habana has done anything wrong.
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[EOYT] Scotland vs South Africa 16/11/13
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I think Le Roux has been better than Habana, not that Habana has done anything wrong.
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well that's no mystery. It's the French name.
Also about S.A.: their setpiece is too sound.
Habana has been missing in action..................unnecessary afters from JDV on Scot defender tackling Pieterson as he scored?
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Yea, the danger man is Le Roux. He's the guy who will set up the flyers like Habana in for sprint to the line.
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Louw's work rate is out of this world.
Where are all the South African fans?!
Where are all the South African fans?!
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Scotland being absolutely demolished. I like seeing Scotland lose but this is heartbreaking.
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Having a Bry (barbeque)eating boers! (Mind my spelling sausages)And watching the game!
After all the *****ing about refs, can I just say I think Gauzere is having a good one?!
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They'll be on when the **** eating grins on their faces recede enough for them to type LOL.
This scoreline is actually probably flattering to Scotland.
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I agree he is trying to allow the game to flow!
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Knock on by Strokosch sums up Scotlands day. These worms they have at Murrayfield are doing nightmares for the pitch. Honestly don't know how the IRB can get butthurt over some Canadian turf fields when we've seen ghastly pitches over the last couple of weeks in the EOYT's.
How is the Sauvignpn Blanc today?!!
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OK so in retrospect from the 80% of the match I've seen:
Good result for South Africa. Great set-piece, great contest in every single department, success in every department of the match. Good, whole effort. One thing: their attack still isn't great, and though 28-0 is great, one would feel the impression they probably could have scored more. As long as sides can't contain their strength for 80min, they'll be fine.
But just one example:
TRC Final in South Africa: NZL managed to contain the hosts' strength fairly well, despite some leaks. But SA were in the game and well when Habana was scoring those tries all by himself, two of them. Without Habana's exceptional footspeed, they do not score those tries. Maybe after more phases, maybe, but that's neither here nor there. When he left the field injured, S.A. started to sink deep progressively and NZL managed a fairly large win on the road in the end.
South Africa's weakness is the attack, I feel.
I think they're going to win in Paris, but I'll wait for that thread to be up. And I definitely see Australia beating Scotland next week.
Good result for South Africa. Great set-piece, great contest in every single department, success in every department of the match. Good, whole effort. One thing: their attack still isn't great, and though 28-0 is great, one would feel the impression they probably could have scored more. As long as sides can't contain their strength for 80min, they'll be fine.
But just one example:
TRC Final in South Africa: NZL managed to contain the hosts' strength fairly well, despite some leaks. But SA were in the game and well when Habana was scoring those tries all by himself, two of them. Without Habana's exceptional footspeed, they do not score those tries. Maybe after more phases, maybe, but that's neither here nor there. When he left the field injured, S.A. started to sink deep progressively and NZL managed a fairly large win on the road in the end.
South Africa's weakness is the attack, I feel.
I think they're going to win in Paris, but I'll wait for that thread to be up. And I definitely see Australia beating Scotland next week.
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More measured than yesterday!
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Scottish mate of mine convinced that the two maul tries were truck and trailer, anyone else see it? I can't at all
Anyone care to settle this?
Anyone care to settle this?
Not even close.
On a general point, this being 28-0 after that start isn't too bad as SA looked to be threatening the 50 mark at one stage
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Give the FU**ING try to Scotland! They deserve a FU**ING try like a gift for Christmas!
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Agreed, the game has actually become really dang boring since the last South African try, they are sort of cruising to victory. Lots of long delays now and the pitch is disintegrating due to the conditions and the plague of worms.
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Christ, took 3hrs to come to a decision then it's the wrong one then it's the right one then it's the wrong one etc.etc.etc.
I would've said 22 restart.
I would've said 22 restart.
Did that TMO actually know what he was doing there? "I think its a scrum".
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That's a TMO encounter to remember, LG.
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It would only have been better with a thick French or Italian accent.
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As a Frenchman worried for my XV de France, I must say this:
Scotland reminded me of France many times here today. The intent to score a well constructed try has been there literally the - whole - way. As we've played lately this Autumn (well, all year really). Some passes were made, some times in abundance, seemingly going somewhere, and then boom, unforced error, no Sprinbok there, Scotland just brainfart. And that's all they did. The whole 80. Good, respectable intent to really play the sport, but boom, handling fk-ups galore.
So as I was saying, we look like Scotland did today at times, and we've certainly never had a full game of great passing and attacking ability in 2013, only in stretches, some times lengthy ones, but never 80.
And we'll be punished by the formidable Springboks as was Scotland if we play that way. Scotland today were sort of like our "sentinel" so to speak. We now see with more clarity yet we need to be neat with the ball, not necessarily All-Black like, just adroit.
Scotland reminded me of France many times here today. The intent to score a well constructed try has been there literally the - whole - way. As we've played lately this Autumn (well, all year really). Some passes were made, some times in abundance, seemingly going somewhere, and then boom, unforced error, no Sprinbok there, Scotland just brainfart. And that's all they did. The whole 80. Good, respectable intent to really play the sport, but boom, handling fk-ups galore.
So as I was saying, we look like Scotland did today at times, and we've certainly never had a full game of great passing and attacking ability in 2013, only in stretches, some times lengthy ones, but never 80.
And we'll be punished by the formidable Springboks as was Scotland if we play that way. Scotland today were sort of like our "sentinel" so to speak. We now see with more clarity yet we need to be neat with the ball, not necessarily All-Black like, just adroit.
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I really don't see the point in Bakkies' return to the Boks. He has been a great player for them, but they should be building for the 2015 RWC and Bakkies is not going to be part of that team and he is unlikely to be playing on TRC next year. So why bring him back unless it is to be the elder statesmen, but they have enough of those on the team. They should be getting EE and PSdT as many tests together as possible so that the become the Matfield-Botha combo for the future.
By by the way, isn't it unbelievable to see Bakkies and Ali Williams packing down arm in arm for scrums at Toulon?
And Flower of Scotland as it is done at Murrayfield, with the second half of the song a capella, is great. IMHO second only to Land of Our Fathers, at least in terms of NH anthems.
Ps. HM is the rugby coach most likely to die of a coronary during a match. He always looks like he is under extreme stress. The (interim) Scottish coach looked disinterested whenever he was shown.
By by the way, isn't it unbelievable to see Bakkies and Ali Williams packing down arm in arm for scrums at Toulon?
And Flower of Scotland as it is done at Murrayfield, with the second half of the song a capella, is great. IMHO second only to Land of Our Fathers, at least in terms of NH anthems.
Ps. HM is the rugby coach most likely to die of a coronary during a match. He always looks like he is under extreme stress. The (interim) Scottish coach looked disinterested whenever he was shown.
Well, I was watching the game at the pub and not on my laptop at home. Quite rude to be on my phone the entire game haha
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Aaaaaand it's a shut-out win!!!
What a performance by our forwards. As the weather and the pitch worsened, so did the game.
Bakkies and Flip were tremendous in the tight areas. Duane and Willem tackled like monsters and Willie was pure class, not only in attack but also in positional play.
For once Lambie's kicking was the only part of his game that wasn't off. Did Jaque Fourie or the wings ever recieved the ball from a front foot ball in the attacking area??
Downside was Bismarck's throwing into the line-outs. Not a single successful throw.
So we've won 2 games and didn't concede a single try in the 2 outings. Our Defence was immense!
Oh and us Saffas aren't used to watching games on Sundays. It's a day of going to church, have a family braai or potjie (like I had), being lazy and sleeping a lot.
That said, I think all the Cape based fans will be a bit silent for a short while, they had massive floods the last few days and only started with the cleanup today.
What a performance by our forwards. As the weather and the pitch worsened, so did the game.
Bakkies and Flip were tremendous in the tight areas. Duane and Willem tackled like monsters and Willie was pure class, not only in attack but also in positional play.
For once Lambie's kicking was the only part of his game that wasn't off. Did Jaque Fourie or the wings ever recieved the ball from a front foot ball in the attacking area??
Downside was Bismarck's throwing into the line-outs. Not a single successful throw.
So we've won 2 games and didn't concede a single try in the 2 outings. Our Defence was immense!
Oh and us Saffas aren't used to watching games on Sundays. It's a day of going to church, have a family braai or potjie (like I had), being lazy and sleeping a lot.
That said, I think all the Cape based fans will be a bit silent for a short while, they had massive floods the last few days and only started with the cleanup today.
You should see Somerset West and Strand... Terrible...
Good game I thought, our attack worries me a bit, but then again Scotland defended like demons and the conditions wasn't that great. I'd like to see a tad more creativity from the rest of the backs, and not just see Willie and (not today) Habana making magic.
Oh and I wish I could revive my post from 2010 or 2011 saying that Willie will one day be a great Bok (and Eze not agreeing with me
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Good game I thought, our attack worries me a bit, but then again Scotland defended like demons and the conditions wasn't that great. I'd like to see a tad more creativity from the rest of the backs, and not just see Willie and (not today) Habana making magic.
Oh and I wish I could revive my post from 2010 or 2011 saying that Willie will one day be a great Bok (and Eze not agreeing with me
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