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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 1079701" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>Fair point, I can't really agree with your rule (which you admit is arbitrary so I won't argue it just give my opinion).</p><p></p><p>I find is extremely hard to exclude Vettel, four championships in a row with a record 9 race wins in a row span, youngest championship winner and pole sitter with two championships won on the last weekend as well as a win with a backmarker.</p><p></p><p>To be honest I look at Seb's career and the only major blemishes are multi-21 and Germany 2018, he left RB at the correct time but ran into the most dominant period one team has ever enjoyed in the sport.</p><p></p><p>Alonso would be the other in my lifetime, arguably more talented than Seb but couldn't make a good career decision and had many unjustified bad relationships with colleagues (the Ron Dennis fallout being the only one I can really get behind) so he was definitely partially at fault for his troubles. His nearly seasons with Ferrari were incredible though, took a dog to one final day track position from the world championship twice. </p><p></p><p>Goes without saying that Hamilton and Schumacher are greats. And Hakkinen would be my standard bearer for as good as a driver can be without hitting the threshold.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 1079701, member: 45598"] Fair point, I can't really agree with your rule (which you admit is arbitrary so I won't argue it just give my opinion). I find is extremely hard to exclude Vettel, four championships in a row with a record 9 race wins in a row span, youngest championship winner and pole sitter with two championships won on the last weekend as well as a win with a backmarker. To be honest I look at Seb's career and the only major blemishes are multi-21 and Germany 2018, he left RB at the correct time but ran into the most dominant period one team has ever enjoyed in the sport. Alonso would be the other in my lifetime, arguably more talented than Seb but couldn't make a good career decision and had many unjustified bad relationships with colleagues (the Ron Dennis fallout being the only one I can really get behind) so he was definitely partially at fault for his troubles. His nearly seasons with Ferrari were incredible though, took a dog to one final day track position from the world championship twice. Goes without saying that Hamilton and Schumacher are greats. And Hakkinen would be my standard bearer for as good as a driver can be without hitting the threshold. [/QUOTE]
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