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<blockquote data-quote="TRF_stormer2010" data-source="post: 368884" data-attributes="member: 39190"><p>Some of the times thrown around here seem complete bullshit. Even for track times in very good conditions never mind in a rugby game setup so I won't even go there.</p><p> </p><p>True, track and field or athletics as we call is completely dead in SA and the only spectators will be the moms and dads of the athletes. No spectators and no sponsors translate to no money but still, the cream still compete for the sake of competing and I doubt that those with true talent don't compete in SA athletics. As a 3rd world country we don't have decent training and facilities at hand to everyone but once you reach a certain point I highly doubt that you won't find your way to the few world class facilities and trainers that we do have at the major urban centers. That said I do agree that many guys with potential don't go that route because they get sanpped up by rugby scouts first but from that point onward they get rugby training which hardly focusses on pure speed. I am sure guys like Tonderai Chavanga and Jongi Nokwe would post faster times if they had never heard of rugby.</p><p> </p><p>10.50 for a 100m in SA was a winning time in SA schools when I was still at school and most guys where running 10.6/10.7. These guys who as rugby players run 10.50 off hand just sound too much to be true. Maybe with times taken by hand and with wind at their backs that would disqualify their times in a real athletics meet but you could hardly use that as a comparitive tool. In any case, a time over 100m counts for little in rugby as the guy who runs fastest over 100m is rarely the guy who runs fastest over 20m which is what counts in rugby. </p><p> </p><p>I guess what I am saying is that it is useless arguing using times for 100m found somewhere as you can't compare apples with apples even when using that as there are lots of variables still.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TRF_stormer2010, post: 368884, member: 39190"] Some of the times thrown around here seem complete bullshit. Even for track times in very good conditions never mind in a rugby game setup so I won't even go there. True, track and field or athletics as we call is completely dead in SA and the only spectators will be the moms and dads of the athletes. No spectators and no sponsors translate to no money but still, the cream still compete for the sake of competing and I doubt that those with true talent don't compete in SA athletics. As a 3rd world country we don't have decent training and facilities at hand to everyone but once you reach a certain point I highly doubt that you won't find your way to the few world class facilities and trainers that we do have at the major urban centers. That said I do agree that many guys with potential don't go that route because they get sanpped up by rugby scouts first but from that point onward they get rugby training which hardly focusses on pure speed. I am sure guys like Tonderai Chavanga and Jongi Nokwe would post faster times if they had never heard of rugby. 10.50 for a 100m in SA was a winning time in SA schools when I was still at school and most guys where running 10.6/10.7. These guys who as rugby players run 10.50 off hand just sound too much to be true. Maybe with times taken by hand and with wind at their backs that would disqualify their times in a real athletics meet but you could hardly use that as a comparitive tool. In any case, a time over 100m counts for little in rugby as the guy who runs fastest over 100m is rarely the guy who runs fastest over 20m which is what counts in rugby. I guess what I am saying is that it is useless arguing using times for 100m found somewhere as you can't compare apples with apples even when using that as there are lots of variables still. [/QUOTE]
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