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<blockquote data-quote="mania" data-source="post: 882793" data-attributes="member: 75051"><p>no its not pure and simple. theyre both, Samoan Kiwis (and i bet they define themselves in that order) so they have twice as much heritage than most people.</p><p>yes NZ did develop them but their intelligence strength speed determination coordination and warrior spirit comes from their genes and those are Samoan.</p><p>i dont understand why people are opposed to this? what does NZ (or which ever Tier1 team they played for) lose if nonu, vito, stevenLuatua, Saili brothers, tuipolotu, rossFilipo, etc play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji etc. teams that produce a myriad of players around the world but their home countries get nada.</p><p>the main reason they ever played for tier1 teams is for the money, but the thing denying them from playing for who they want too, are people in power with this mentality.</p><p></p><p>Five Meters Out, i dont get what you lose in this and why youre opposed to players playing for their home countries (and yes it is their home countries. islander kiwi's can have more than one home. i have Upolu and Wellington). in most cases the reason they played for the tier1 nation in the first place was an obscure reason that was a stretch and solely to get a non tier1 national into a tier1 team eg residency (NZ players who were born here aside)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mania, post: 882793, member: 75051"] no its not pure and simple. theyre both, Samoan Kiwis (and i bet they define themselves in that order) so they have twice as much heritage than most people. yes NZ did develop them but their intelligence strength speed determination coordination and warrior spirit comes from their genes and those are Samoan. i dont understand why people are opposed to this? what does NZ (or which ever Tier1 team they played for) lose if nonu, vito, stevenLuatua, Saili brothers, tuipolotu, rossFilipo, etc play for Samoa, Tonga, Fiji etc. teams that produce a myriad of players around the world but their home countries get nada. the main reason they ever played for tier1 teams is for the money, but the thing denying them from playing for who they want too, are people in power with this mentality. Five Meters Out, i dont get what you lose in this and why youre opposed to players playing for their home countries (and yes it is their home countries. islander kiwi's can have more than one home. i have Upolu and Wellington). in most cases the reason they played for the tier1 nation in the first place was an obscure reason that was a stretch and solely to get a non tier1 national into a tier1 team eg residency (NZ players who were born here aside) [/QUOTE]
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