France v South Africa - 8/11/2025

[Cruz_del_Sur]

He turned sideways and dropped the shoulder into his head.

Honest question: do you sincerely believe the tried to do that, he was reckless or that the ball carrier dropping like a rock was the main factor in that happening?

I am okish with an unfortunate incident leading to a YC. I can tolerate that. But a straight RC? Permanent one? Nah, you've got to give the defender a chance. It's as if the ones making the rules want the defenders to be responsible for anything and everything (result), even when half of those things are outside of their control.

Guy went low, i (opinion) dont think he was trying to do that (i.e he had to adjust on the fly) and the ball carrier dropper very low and very fast.

 

[Ddanno]

A straight red and it wasn't Etzebeth??

 

[dirty harry]

He wrapped with his right and he's trying to bring his left around when it hits the ball.

No chance, his left arm is tucked under himself, straightned. I love a hit as much as the next man, but that was probably the right decision.

Biggest two commercial games of the year and iffy red cards. Man I'm ****** off.

I agree here, the constant reds are ruining the game as a specracle, every decision in the Beirne case was correct, as according to the laws, but it damages the growth of the game

 

[General Melchett]

Honest question: do you sincerely believe the tried to do that, he was reckless or that the ball carrier dropping like a rock was the main factor in that happening?

I am okish with an unfortunate incident leading to a YC. I can tolerate that. But a straight RC? Permanent one? Nah, you've got to give the defender a chance. It's as if the ones making the rules want the defenders to be responsible for anything and everything (result), even when half of those things are outside of their control.

Guy went low, i (opinion) dont think he was trying to do that (i.e he had to adjust on the fly) and the ball carrier dropper very low and very fast.

I highly doubt there was intent. Was he unlucky? Perhaps but his lack of wrap and body position meant he was unsighted as the shoulder dropped and hit his head with a lot of force. It looked much worse than Beirne's one last weekend where he simply braced as Barrett ran into him.

 

[dirty harry]

Honest question: do you sincerely believe the tried to do that, he was reckless or that the ball carrier dropping like a rock was the main factor in that happening?

I am okish with an unfortunate incident leading to a YC. I can tolerate that. But a straight RC? Permanent one? Nah, you've got to give the defender a chance. It's as if the ones making the rules want the defenders to be responsible for anything and everything (result), even when half of those things are outside of their control.

Guy went low, i (opinion) dont think he was trying to do that (i.e he had to adjust on the fly) and the ball carrier dropper very low and very fast.

I agree with most of this, except De jager tucked his arm, i personally think he was trying to hit a smaller player, had he wrapped im right here with you, but he doesnt, and well he was unlucky to catch thw head, but the no arm was a decision made.

 

[dirty harry]

France butchering chances now... they really need SA to work harder than this!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I'm glad Esterhuizen is on now so the commentary can stfu about him playing centre and backrow

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

I've gone back to check these, de Jager wasn't bringing his left arm around.

Incidentally, autocorrect changed my misspelling of "left" to "lady". I want to set the record clear, Lood de Jager does not have a lady arm.

You have a woman's arm! @General Melchett I hope your knowledge extends beyond series 4.

 

[saulan]

This is too much intensity for 14 men. They’re going to tire by the end of this game…

 

[saulan]

I'm glad Esterhuizen is on now so the commentary can stfu about him playing centre and backrow

You mean talk about it non-stop as he consistently switches between the two positions right?

 

[BMatt]

This is too much intensity for 14 men. They're going to tire by the end of this game…

I'm not so sure. This is a very strong SA team.

 

[dirty harry]

I'm not so sure. This is a very strong SA team.

I would isually agree, but not only are they down to 14, the game is high tempo, ball is staying in play , and Rassie made a 30 min prop sub...

They will slow, its whether France can be patient in the next 15 mins

 

[Saintjay]

Seeing Libbok coming on at 10 for SA. Must be similar to the confidence boost Ireland get seeing Sam Prendergast coming on.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

That should be a PT

 

[dirty harry]

That should be a PT

Nah there was a defender for me... SA would defo have scored though!

 

[Grizwald]

SA Just seem to be able to stay in games even when their second best.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Surely that's a penalty try then. Wide open.

 

[Which Tyler]

That should be a PT

Probably but I can see why they chose not to, even if I disagree

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

We'll probably rue all the missed shots at goal..

 

[Grizwald]

France have punched themselves out. No way near enough points for the dominance, I've no idea what the oen count us but its got to be big.