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<blockquote data-quote="Bullitt" data-source="post: 159584"><p>Munster and Ulster threw the ball around plenty last year.. </p><p></p><p>Sure Munster bulldoze teams but they do have a decent backline spearheaded by Ronan O'gara at the 10, although he doesnt have much outside of him..</p><p></p><p>Im not saying that you have to be a hardcore <strong>England</strong> fan but in honesty if you dont support a GP team its not that entertaining.</p><p> [/b]</p></blockquote><p></p><p>Bigging up Ronan "H'oim de best floy-alf in de Worrled!" O'Gara now? Oh dear, that's desperation. I'll pretend I didn't see it.</p><p></p><p>Whilst you're partally correct that the ML does have <em>some</em> great backs (in the Welsh sides at least, Munster don't have any good backs whilst Leinster never play Contipomi, BOD or D'Arcy in the ML only to choke in the groups of the HEC every year like an All Black with 3 minutes to go insisting on "keeping it pretty"), you've shown the same arrogance towards the GP in favour of the ML as a typical American Plastic Paddy has this romantic view of the IRA and hate towards England, only knowing/caring-for half the story.</p><p></p><p>Whilst the (Welsh) ML sides do like to chuck the ball around, as the self-proclaimed worlds greatest scrum half you should be fully aware that for the ball to go through the backs, the pack first needs to secure the pig skin. Look at any ML side and generally the ball is spun wide, the winger is caught, ball gets turned over, the ball is spun wide, the winger is caught, the ball gets turned over, wash-rinse-repeat - it's like watching junior rugby league without the atmosphere (which is admitted across the board that nobod is interested in attending these games unless it's a local derby).</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, and what you pooh-pooh the GP sides for, is the GP sides using their pack much moreto keep the ball at the first contact and recycle.Therefore we have; Ball is spun wide, winger gets caught, Pack retains ball, lock/prop gains 3m on drive through, ball is recycled and presented to scrum half, pall put through the hands, try-time.</p><p></p><p>If you wanted to compare the general styles of rugby in the ML and GP to those of international sides, the ML would be like pre-tournament Australia; Fast, pretty, over-rated and never win anything, always amongst the favorates though. The GP on the other hand would be like the Boks; Dominant packs with backs that can both run 100m when the opportinity presents itself or kick the ball when needed. Which in turn would make the Top 14 like the AB's; Will rip any other team apart when they can be bothered to turn up, but that's a different arguement for a different day.</p><p></p><p>When you look at the previous HEC winners, the GP (or ABP/ZP as it was in previous guises) can boast 6 previous wins, Top 14/16 with 4 and the CL/ML with a mere 2. As with everying else, people only remember what the previous results are, not how they were won (eg, everyone forgets the wonderful rugby of the 2003 All Blacks). So on that note, it's better to win ugly if need be then to lose being pretty. The AB's will be the first to admit that.</p><p></p><p>While the ML has somegreat rugby occasionally, the simple fact boils down that the teams aren't as good as the GP sides.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway, back to Henson, I refuse to admit in public that he had a bloody good game against Worcester. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />h34r: </p><p></p><p> :unsure: </p><p></p><p>Ah ********...</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Bullitt, post: 159584"] Munster and Ulster threw the ball around plenty last year.. Sure Munster bulldoze teams but they do have a decent backline spearheaded by Ronan O'gara at the 10, although he doesnt have much outside of him.. Im not saying that you have to be a hardcore [b]England[/b] fan but in honesty if you dont support a GP team its not that entertaining. [/b][/quote] Bigging up Ronan "H'oim de best floy-alf in de Worrled!" O'Gara now? Oh dear, that's desperation. I'll pretend I didn't see it. Whilst you're partally correct that the ML does have [i]some[/i] great backs (in the Welsh sides at least, Munster don't have any good backs whilst Leinster never play Contipomi, BOD or D'Arcy in the ML only to choke in the groups of the HEC every year like an All Black with 3 minutes to go insisting on "keeping it pretty"), you've shown the same arrogance towards the GP in favour of the ML as a typical American Plastic Paddy has this romantic view of the IRA and hate towards England, only knowing/caring-for half the story. Whilst the (Welsh) ML sides do like to chuck the ball around, as the self-proclaimed worlds greatest scrum half you should be fully aware that for the ball to go through the backs, the pack first needs to secure the pig skin. Look at any ML side and generally the ball is spun wide, the winger is caught, ball gets turned over, the ball is spun wide, the winger is caught, the ball gets turned over, wash-rinse-repeat - it's like watching junior rugby league without the atmosphere (which is admitted across the board that nobod is interested in attending these games unless it's a local derby). On the other hand, and what you pooh-pooh the GP sides for, is the GP sides using their pack much moreto keep the ball at the first contact and recycle.Therefore we have; Ball is spun wide, winger gets caught, Pack retains ball, lock/prop gains 3m on drive through, ball is recycled and presented to scrum half, pall put through the hands, try-time. If you wanted to compare the general styles of rugby in the ML and GP to those of international sides, the ML would be like pre-tournament Australia; Fast, pretty, over-rated and never win anything, always amongst the favorates though. The GP on the other hand would be like the Boks; Dominant packs with backs that can both run 100m when the opportinity presents itself or kick the ball when needed. Which in turn would make the Top 14 like the AB's; Will rip any other team apart when they can be bothered to turn up, but that's a different arguement for a different day. When you look at the previous HEC winners, the GP (or ABP/ZP as it was in previous guises) can boast 6 previous wins, Top 14/16 with 4 and the CL/ML with a mere 2. As with everying else, people only remember what the previous results are, not how they were won (eg, everyone forgets the wonderful rugby of the 2003 All Blacks). So on that note, it's better to win ugly if need be then to lose being pretty. The AB's will be the first to admit that. While the ML has somegreat rugby occasionally, the simple fact boils down that the teams aren't as good as the GP sides. Anyway, back to Henson, I refuse to admit in public that he had a bloody good game against Worcester. :ph34r: :unsure: Ah ********... [/QUOTE]
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