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<blockquote data-quote="unrated" data-source="post: 994538" data-attributes="member: 45773"><p>I think we are closer to an understanding then than you might think. But let me explain my thought process when analyzing a post such as yours.</p><p></p><p>You see, in the absence of you explaining a statement I have to resort to making assumptions. </p><p></p><p>The first such statement you made, <strong>You don't want to fall on the "Its a cultural thing" but you</strong> (or we instead, I get that) <strong>does not like people that you do not think are Argentines, represent Argentina</strong>. You use Messi as an example for this statement. So you say that many people question him playing for Argentina.</p><p></p><p>The conclusion I draw from this is that, 1. Messi was born in Argentina therefore 2. You must be referring to the cultural thing that you don't like to fall back on and then 3. I must assume because of a lack of explanation on your side that you believe the Messi family is not truly Argentinean (I heard similar rumours too) so 4. therefore I make the assumption that a cultural connection trumps the mere fact that someone was born in said country. If I am still wrong then you are right I must probably have bad reading comprehension.</p><p>I hope you get how I come to this reasoning. Moving on. </p><p></p><p>One last thing on Messi, im sure he does not feel he did Argentina a favour by playing for them. Those were my words. </p><p></p><p>And you say referring to Messi again "we'd rather lose with our guns than win by borrowing others'. I for one am rather fond of that" </p><p>Please elaborate on what about Messi, you (or many Argentineans) feel makes him not Argentinean enough to represent the country. Am I wrong to assume that you were indeed referring to cultural links? If not how am I supposed to deduct your actual reasoning?</p><p></p><p>But yes I get it, Argentinians are very selective about who represents them, that's ok with me. From a personal point of view, most of us in the new world are descended from European migrants. Therefore, I deem the country you were born in much more sensible towards International selection.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="unrated, post: 994538, member: 45773"] I think we are closer to an understanding then than you might think. But let me explain my thought process when analyzing a post such as yours. You see, in the absence of you explaining a statement I have to resort to making assumptions. The first such statement you made, [B]You don't want to fall on the "Its a cultural thing" but you[/B] (or we instead, I get that) [B]does not like people that you do not think are Argentines, represent Argentina[/B]. You use Messi as an example for this statement. So you say that many people question him playing for Argentina. The conclusion I draw from this is that, 1. Messi was born in Argentina therefore 2. You must be referring to the cultural thing that you don't like to fall back on and then 3. I must assume because of a lack of explanation on your side that you believe the Messi family is not truly Argentinean (I heard similar rumours too) so 4. therefore I make the assumption that a cultural connection trumps the mere fact that someone was born in said country. If I am still wrong then you are right I must probably have bad reading comprehension. I hope you get how I come to this reasoning. Moving on. One last thing on Messi, im sure he does not feel he did Argentina a favour by playing for them. Those were my words. And you say referring to Messi again "we'd rather lose with our guns than win by borrowing others'. I for one am rather fond of that" Please elaborate on what about Messi, you (or many Argentineans) feel makes him not Argentinean enough to represent the country. Am I wrong to assume that you were indeed referring to cultural links? If not how am I supposed to deduct your actual reasoning? But yes I get it, Argentinians are very selective about who represents them, that's ok with me. From a personal point of view, most of us in the new world are descended from European migrants. Therefore, I deem the country you were born in much more sensible towards International selection. [/QUOTE]
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