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<blockquote data-quote="Amiga500" data-source="post: 635108" data-attributes="member: 56767"><p>You ever tried stopping from a full sprint in 10 cm? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Both intended to play the ball. JP didn't realise Goode was there till the ball virtually landed in his hands, at which point collision between the two was long since inevitable. </p><p></p><p>If one were to assign blame to Payne for not being aware of Goode's presence and adjusting his run appropriately, then the exact same charge can be levelled at Goode for not being aware of Payne and adjusting his jump appropriately [those that would say this is impossible just don't know how to jump for competed ball].</p><p></p><p>Is it a red? Its certainly a dangerous situation for which Payne is at least partially responsible for. But then so is collapsing a scrum and pulling down a lineout jumper... neither offence sees red.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I can see why the referee has gave it, the act of not jumping always looks bad. Do I disagree with the law stating it can be a red card offence? No, serious injury could result. Do I disagree with the brandishing of the red card in this instance? Yes. </p><p></p><p>I have no recollection of red cards being used for such scenarios in the past, and deciding mid-way through a knock-out competition to change the implementation or interpretation of the laws is not on without a wide edict going out. Same as Warburton in the world cup, you cannot make fundamental changes to the interpretation of the rules of the game without actually letting the players know!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amiga500, post: 635108, member: 56767"] You ever tried stopping from a full sprint in 10 cm? :rolleyes: Both intended to play the ball. JP didn't realise Goode was there till the ball virtually landed in his hands, at which point collision between the two was long since inevitable. If one were to assign blame to Payne for not being aware of Goode's presence and adjusting his run appropriately, then the exact same charge can be levelled at Goode for not being aware of Payne and adjusting his jump appropriately [those that would say this is impossible just don't know how to jump for competed ball]. Is it a red? Its certainly a dangerous situation for which Payne is at least partially responsible for. But then so is collapsing a scrum and pulling down a lineout jumper... neither offence sees red. I can see why the referee has gave it, the act of not jumping always looks bad. Do I disagree with the law stating it can be a red card offence? No, serious injury could result. Do I disagree with the brandishing of the red card in this instance? Yes. I have no recollection of red cards being used for such scenarios in the past, and deciding mid-way through a knock-out competition to change the implementation or interpretation of the laws is not on without a wide edict going out. Same as Warburton in the world cup, you cannot make fundamental changes to the interpretation of the rules of the game without actually letting the players know! [/QUOTE]
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