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How would Centralised Contracts work in the AP?
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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 772355" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>Roughly speaking, in Ireland, it's like this...</p><p></p><p>- Players under CC can only play so many minutes per block of games (usually 6 or so I think). How the province handles that is up to them. How many minutes depends on the player, their injury history etc.etc.</p><p></p><p>- Ireland's head coach can dictate when and where players play, but this is done judiciously. For example: Ulster have been told in the past to give Tom Court and Paddy Wallace games in their secondary position when it looked like they'd be needed there. Ulster have been told "Play Jared Payne at 13" when we've had another good full-back but this has been relaxed at moments of stress for the province; generally, Ulster have been allowed to play Henderson at blindside or lock as they see fit. Usually provinces are under obligation to ensure the best players get out for the best games (i.e. Europe) but if a province wants to throw an interprovincial due to bad timing and send the A team for a hammering, then that's allowed too.</p><p></p><p>- So far the IRFU haven't dictated which province players must play for at all, despite the absurd situation where Ulster have as many top Pro 12 centres as Leinster and Munster together, Leinster have Ireland's 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice tightheads, Leinster have two full back-rows of Irish internationals while Ulster play AIL back rows and so on. There's rumours Nucifora is looking to increase movement around the provinces but it seems pretty clear player consent must come first.</p><p></p><p>The big problem with central contracting in England, if selective, is that every it'd be quite quite uneven over 12 clubs.</p><p></p><p>I think you either have to give every single EQP a central contact giving the Union certain rights - which, incidentally, would allow the clubs to lower wage payments to those players, thus making foreigners more expensive and sort of doing Raggs' idea of a minimum cost for NEQP players - or create a stronger EPS agreement which gives the national team more control over the players. I'd be aiming for a set minimum period of time given over to skills training at every single club there. The RFU directly taking over payment of the best players? Very tricky to implement.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 772355, member: 42330"] Roughly speaking, in Ireland, it's like this... - Players under CC can only play so many minutes per block of games (usually 6 or so I think). How the province handles that is up to them. How many minutes depends on the player, their injury history etc.etc. - Ireland's head coach can dictate when and where players play, but this is done judiciously. For example: Ulster have been told in the past to give Tom Court and Paddy Wallace games in their secondary position when it looked like they'd be needed there. Ulster have been told "Play Jared Payne at 13" when we've had another good full-back but this has been relaxed at moments of stress for the province; generally, Ulster have been allowed to play Henderson at blindside or lock as they see fit. Usually provinces are under obligation to ensure the best players get out for the best games (i.e. Europe) but if a province wants to throw an interprovincial due to bad timing and send the A team for a hammering, then that's allowed too. - So far the IRFU haven't dictated which province players must play for at all, despite the absurd situation where Ulster have as many top Pro 12 centres as Leinster and Munster together, Leinster have Ireland's 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice tightheads, Leinster have two full back-rows of Irish internationals while Ulster play AIL back rows and so on. There's rumours Nucifora is looking to increase movement around the provinces but it seems pretty clear player consent must come first. The big problem with central contracting in England, if selective, is that every it'd be quite quite uneven over 12 clubs. I think you either have to give every single EQP a central contact giving the Union certain rights - which, incidentally, would allow the clubs to lower wage payments to those players, thus making foreigners more expensive and sort of doing Raggs' idea of a minimum cost for NEQP players - or create a stronger EPS agreement which gives the national team more control over the players. I'd be aiming for a set minimum period of time given over to skills training at every single club there. The RFU directly taking over payment of the best players? Very tricky to implement. [/QUOTE]
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