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<blockquote data-quote="Leonormous Boozer" data-source="post: 769586" data-attributes="member: 45598"><p>Hernandez and Fernandez Lobbe. Hernandez remained you're most important back, he was Sanchez's eyes and ears and I'm not convinced that Argentina have an adequate replacement for him. Without a creative 9 or 10 I think Sanchez will struggle hugely, he's not a very intelligent rugby player and will easily be exposed under pressure. Fernandez Lobbe was also the brains of the pack and played a vital link role that will not easily be replaced. </p><p></p><p>My estimate is for the medium term and based around them not having a huge amount of influential players with experience. In 2017 I'd expect they'd be able to build again and have similar top level resources as Ireland and Wales. Wales and Ireland's cycle is more based on maximising potential at any given time because we'll never have te resources to win a World Cup by design our only chance is having the right personnel at the right time and fluking it a bit, we'll forever stay as the benchmark for European sides as RWC quarter or semi finalists depending on the draw and teams will have to be better than us to win the thing or contest in the latter stages. </p><p></p><p>I think 2019 is a bit premature for Argentina to think it's their time to go to the next level, they'll be a world superpower but I think it's 10+ years down the line and I don't think much improvement shall be expected for 2019. </p><p></p><p>Another thing that would worry me about Los Jaguares is the risk of them going stale, there's a difference in club and international level rugby and playing as essentially the same team in both is more likely to result in them playing to club level constantly rather than international. There's a fine line between having cohesion from club level shine through to international and while the likes of France don't have enough players playing with each other in their clubs, Argentina are risking going the opposite way.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: silver"><span style="font-size: 9px">- - - Updated - - -</span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ireland have never played SA in a RWC?!! That'd be a cool fixture in 2019!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leonormous Boozer, post: 769586, member: 45598"] Hernandez and Fernandez Lobbe. Hernandez remained you're most important back, he was Sanchez's eyes and ears and I'm not convinced that Argentina have an adequate replacement for him. Without a creative 9 or 10 I think Sanchez will struggle hugely, he's not a very intelligent rugby player and will easily be exposed under pressure. Fernandez Lobbe was also the brains of the pack and played a vital link role that will not easily be replaced. My estimate is for the medium term and based around them not having a huge amount of influential players with experience. In 2017 I'd expect they'd be able to build again and have similar top level resources as Ireland and Wales. Wales and Ireland's cycle is more based on maximising potential at any given time because we'll never have te resources to win a World Cup by design our only chance is having the right personnel at the right time and fluking it a bit, we'll forever stay as the benchmark for European sides as RWC quarter or semi finalists depending on the draw and teams will have to be better than us to win the thing or contest in the latter stages. I think 2019 is a bit premature for Argentina to think it's their time to go to the next level, they'll be a world superpower but I think it's 10+ years down the line and I don't think much improvement shall be expected for 2019. Another thing that would worry me about Los Jaguares is the risk of them going stale, there's a difference in club and international level rugby and playing as essentially the same team in both is more likely to result in them playing to club level constantly rather than international. There's a fine line between having cohesion from club level shine through to international and while the likes of France don't have enough players playing with each other in their clubs, Argentina are risking going the opposite way. [COLOR=silver][SIZE=1]- - - Updated - - -[/SIZE][/COLOR] Ireland have never played SA in a RWC?!! That'd be a cool fixture in 2019! [/QUOTE]
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