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2024 Guinness Six Nations
Ireland v England, 10/02/13
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<blockquote data-quote="Big Ewis" data-source="post: 550120" data-attributes="member: 57076"><p>Well like I said, I can't go back to unknowing what I've accumulated as knowledge about that one aspect of England. Every country is stupid in that its ppl are proud beyond rationality, and are emotionally linked to their history, culture etc.., and such a tiny portion of the world population is truly objective, and genuinely trying to be. It's all so much more comforting to think "we're the best because...".</p><p>French ppl are terribly chauvinistic too, but then again they're self-loathing in the most open, and exaggerated way. Not comparable.</p><p>But there's a very special pride in England. It's more than standard patriotism like <u>nosevi</u> suggests. That's just trivializing something that isn't trivial, banal. There's just something about England and how they consider themselves. All so utterly obvious. But that's that...</p><p></p><p>And for the guy who said "so basically England has no talent and Ire Wal Fra do, and we're not Grand Slamming and blah blah" no dude, NOBODY ON THIS ENTIRE THREAD said anything like that. England may very well slam, there's OBVIOUSLY talent there, certainly excellent skill at some positions, and obviously a lot of strength from the forwards in the scrum and those rucks; and England play well as a team, AND; and I think this point is strongly underrated; cold-blooded. </p><p>Us French and then the Celts (well, everyone but England) have shown this tournament, as usually, we're "restless", clumsy, a bit out of control. England had a bit of it against Ireland, but nowhere near as much as Ireland.</p><p></p><p>England can play a <u>standard</u> game, they'll almost ALWAYS have this: great intensity and commitment/strong work ethic, less mistakes than the other 6N side, the forwards and scrum.</p><p>If they're <u>focused</u>: they've got strong defense, good kicking and pts stacking up on penalties, quick ball out of rucks and fast meter-gaining, clean passing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big Ewis, post: 550120, member: 57076"] Well like I said, I can't go back to unknowing what I've accumulated as knowledge about that one aspect of England. Every country is stupid in that its ppl are proud beyond rationality, and are emotionally linked to their history, culture etc.., and such a tiny portion of the world population is truly objective, and genuinely trying to be. It's all so much more comforting to think "we're the best because...". French ppl are terribly chauvinistic too, but then again they're self-loathing in the most open, and exaggerated way. Not comparable. But there's a very special pride in England. It's more than standard patriotism like [U]nosevi[/U] suggests. That's just trivializing something that isn't trivial, banal. There's just something about England and how they consider themselves. All so utterly obvious. But that's that... And for the guy who said "so basically England has no talent and Ire Wal Fra do, and we're not Grand Slamming and blah blah" no dude, NOBODY ON THIS ENTIRE THREAD said anything like that. England may very well slam, there's OBVIOUSLY talent there, certainly excellent skill at some positions, and obviously a lot of strength from the forwards in the scrum and those rucks; and England play well as a team, AND; and I think this point is strongly underrated; cold-blooded. Us French and then the Celts (well, everyone but England) have shown this tournament, as usually, we're "restless", clumsy, a bit out of control. England had a bit of it against Ireland, but nowhere near as much as Ireland. England can play a [U]standard[/U] game, they'll almost ALWAYS have this: great intensity and commitment/strong work ethic, less mistakes than the other 6N side, the forwards and scrum. If they're [U]focused[/U]: they've got strong defense, good kicking and pts stacking up on penalties, quick ball out of rucks and fast meter-gaining, clean passing. [/QUOTE]
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