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<blockquote data-quote="Peat" data-source="post: 392881" data-attributes="member: 42330"><p>It's bullshat that foreign players weaken the Irish team. A mass of them would, and there are a few positions where it is fair to point and say "This is weakening the national side" - actually, wait, just one, Tighthead. Even then, Ireland's weakness at Tighthead has more to do with Kidney's absurd logic that a prop doesn't need to be able to scrum, than the foreigners.</p><p></p><p>But everywhere else, they provide a huge core of experience and quality for the rest of the players to learn from. BJ Botha has basically been Ulster's scrum coach; he's brought on Tom Court, Declan Fitzpatrick and Paddy McAllister a huge amount. iHumph's game has really taken off since playing next to Pienaar, and it must have been an incredible experience for Paddy Jackson to play next to him. Can't have done Nevin Spence any harm, nor Dan Tuohy any harm to play next to Muller. And alright, Wannenburg has pushed Anderson out of Ulster but he's simply not good enough, and Pienaar keeps Marshall on the bench but he's not good enough yet either. And so on at other provinces. Elsom played a great part in instilling a fighting spirit at Leinster, while it must be great for the likes of Kearney jr and Conway to learn from Nacewa.</p><p></p><p>This year's Ireland U20 team had the highest number of players with provincial experience in some time. The foreigners are not blocking their pathway. If they're good enough, they play, and they learn a lot by playing with the best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peat, post: 392881, member: 42330"] It's bullshat that foreign players weaken the Irish team. A mass of them would, and there are a few positions where it is fair to point and say "This is weakening the national side" - actually, wait, just one, Tighthead. Even then, Ireland's weakness at Tighthead has more to do with Kidney's absurd logic that a prop doesn't need to be able to scrum, than the foreigners. But everywhere else, they provide a huge core of experience and quality for the rest of the players to learn from. BJ Botha has basically been Ulster's scrum coach; he's brought on Tom Court, Declan Fitzpatrick and Paddy McAllister a huge amount. iHumph's game has really taken off since playing next to Pienaar, and it must have been an incredible experience for Paddy Jackson to play next to him. Can't have done Nevin Spence any harm, nor Dan Tuohy any harm to play next to Muller. And alright, Wannenburg has pushed Anderson out of Ulster but he's simply not good enough, and Pienaar keeps Marshall on the bench but he's not good enough yet either. And so on at other provinces. Elsom played a great part in instilling a fighting spirit at Leinster, while it must be great for the likes of Kearney jr and Conway to learn from Nacewa. This year's Ireland U20 team had the highest number of players with provincial experience in some time. The foreigners are not blocking their pathway. If they're good enough, they play, and they learn a lot by playing with the best. [/QUOTE]
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