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<blockquote data-quote="Cruz_del_Sur" data-source="post: 940820" data-attributes="member: 55747"><p>I think this quote represents what many have voiced on this thread so i will use it as an example. </p><p>The problem is NOT that folau voiced his beliefs. The problem isn't either that he used social media. That is the symptom, not the root of the problem. </p><p>The problem is that the oldest, one of the largest and one of the richest institutions on the planet has those beliefs and preaches them to millions of people since they are able to speak and understand. That is as close to indoctrination as it gets. </p><p>The problem is that the preaching of those beliefs, as disgusting as they are, is legal. </p><p></p><p>Folau is, again, the symptom. </p><p>Let me put it in (his terms). Assume for a second he genuinely believes what he was taught by the church. Then what he wrote is his belief. He sincerely and honestly thinks those people will go to hell and suffer for eternity. But he didnt come up with this idiocy himself. He was just infected with it. </p><p>Again, he is not the elephant in the room. </p><p></p><p>I disagree, 100% with what folau but i also dislike (to a lesser degree) incongruences. Allowing freedom of worship and then criticizing someone for voicing what the largest religion on the planet preaches is, at the very least, incongruent, at worst, hypocritical. My memory isn't what it used to be, but i am pretty sure the church has at one point or another voiced those beliefs too. </p><p></p><p>I think we all agree what happened was wrong. We just disagree on how to adress the issue. I prefer to leave him exposed and attack the root of the problem. If you shut him up he gets to play the victim card. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>will use your quote as an example but</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cruz_del_Sur, post: 940820, member: 55747"] I think this quote represents what many have voiced on this thread so i will use it as an example. The problem is NOT that folau voiced his beliefs. The problem isn't either that he used social media. That is the symptom, not the root of the problem. The problem is that the oldest, one of the largest and one of the richest institutions on the planet has those beliefs and preaches them to millions of people since they are able to speak and understand. That is as close to indoctrination as it gets. The problem is that the preaching of those beliefs, as disgusting as they are, is legal. Folau is, again, the symptom. Let me put it in (his terms). Assume for a second he genuinely believes what he was taught by the church. Then what he wrote is his belief. He sincerely and honestly thinks those people will go to hell and suffer for eternity. But he didnt come up with this idiocy himself. He was just infected with it. Again, he is not the elephant in the room. I disagree, 100% with what folau but i also dislike (to a lesser degree) incongruences. Allowing freedom of worship and then criticizing someone for voicing what the largest religion on the planet preaches is, at the very least, incongruent, at worst, hypocritical. My memory isn't what it used to be, but i am pretty sure the church has at one point or another voiced those beliefs too. I think we all agree what happened was wrong. We just disagree on how to adress the issue. I prefer to leave him exposed and attack the root of the problem. If you shut him up he gets to play the victim card. will use your quote as an example but [/QUOTE]
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