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<blockquote data-quote="psychic duck" data-source="post: 470037" data-attributes="member: 48703"><p>I agree that Gray is one of the two best locks in the UK, but there is lots of competition as I rate O'Connell, AWJ and Lawes as well, but don't say Charteris is in the league of the names mentioned he's been poor to average his entire career until the World Cup, I would be surprised if he's still in the side by the end of 2012 ahead of Ian Evans or Bradley Davies</p><p></p><p>I think Evans is a good player, but there are lots of good wingers at the minute in the Lions nations such as North, Visser, Bowe, Ashton and also Earls plus Fitzgerald will rediscover his form at some point and there are a few good young English wingers too such as Wade and Sharples, it won't be easy for him to make it</p><p></p><p>regarding teams standard dragging players perceived skill down, of course it is true, nobody mentioned Gorgodze until Montpellier became good despite he has been making good gain line carries since 2007</p><p></p><p>I agree even more so about teams making players seem better than they really are, especially in the backs</p><p></p><p>look at Ben Cohen, he was truely woeful after England stopped being good</p><p></p><p>Rico Gear failed miserably at Worcester deespite being on the end of loads of Crusaders tries</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="psychic duck, post: 470037, member: 48703"] I agree that Gray is one of the two best locks in the UK, but there is lots of competition as I rate O'Connell, AWJ and Lawes as well, but don't say Charteris is in the league of the names mentioned he's been poor to average his entire career until the World Cup, I would be surprised if he's still in the side by the end of 2012 ahead of Ian Evans or Bradley Davies I think Evans is a good player, but there are lots of good wingers at the minute in the Lions nations such as North, Visser, Bowe, Ashton and also Earls plus Fitzgerald will rediscover his form at some point and there are a few good young English wingers too such as Wade and Sharples, it won't be easy for him to make it regarding teams standard dragging players perceived skill down, of course it is true, nobody mentioned Gorgodze until Montpellier became good despite he has been making good gain line carries since 2007 I agree even more so about teams making players seem better than they really are, especially in the backs look at Ben Cohen, he was truely woeful after England stopped being good Rico Gear failed miserably at Worcester deespite being on the end of loads of Crusaders tries [/QUOTE]
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