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<blockquote data-quote="MotherRucker1" data-source="post: 722787" data-attributes="member: 72442"><p>Not necessarily. Not guilty and innocent are two very different things, just for the record. There is a test in criminal law cases where you have to prove a certain act beyond a reasonable doubt. It's a very high standard and it isn't perfect, but it's the closest thing the Westminster system has to perfect. If the prosecution isn't able to put forward a good enough argument, or even find pieces of evidence (that may exist but haven't come into their possession) then those would be barriers to reaching that standard. Innocent simply means there is something which puts you in the clear entirely, like a key witness or something. A lot of dodgy crooks have got off lightly in New Zealand's justice system as you well know. I doubt you'd invite them round for dinner - just because they got off means little in terms of the truth.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I guess I'm sidetracking a bit here. The only point I wanted to make is innocent until proven guilty is fine; I was just speaking of society's attitude in general to rape. The burden of proof is fine, you can't work from the presumption that someone MUST have done it. But asking women what they were wearing, or instantly excusing someone because they're a sportsman is just rubbish. And it speaks volumes of how we mollycoddle certain people in society just because they're in the eye of the media, or play for our favorite club.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MotherRucker1, post: 722787, member: 72442"] Not necessarily. Not guilty and innocent are two very different things, just for the record. There is a test in criminal law cases where you have to prove a certain act beyond a reasonable doubt. It's a very high standard and it isn't perfect, but it's the closest thing the Westminster system has to perfect. If the prosecution isn't able to put forward a good enough argument, or even find pieces of evidence (that may exist but haven't come into their possession) then those would be barriers to reaching that standard. Innocent simply means there is something which puts you in the clear entirely, like a key witness or something. A lot of dodgy crooks have got off lightly in New Zealand's justice system as you well know. I doubt you'd invite them round for dinner - just because they got off means little in terms of the truth. Anyway, I guess I'm sidetracking a bit here. The only point I wanted to make is innocent until proven guilty is fine; I was just speaking of society's attitude in general to rape. The burden of proof is fine, you can't work from the presumption that someone MUST have done it. But asking women what they were wearing, or instantly excusing someone because they're a sportsman is just rubbish. And it speaks volumes of how we mollycoddle certain people in society just because they're in the eye of the media, or play for our favorite club. [/QUOTE]
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