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<blockquote data-quote="fcukernaut" data-source="post: 120281"><p>Hey, it was only an ass raping in NJ!!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick Out Tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p></p><p>We've had this discussion they weren't hapless when they played Toronto, they just **** the bed when they played the Cavs, who by the way I was rooting for that round and have been rooting for, I just didn't think LBJ could have taken them as far as he has. That's what we saw over this series is the emmergence of LeBron James. This is what you've waited 4 years for. Sure he may not be a leader just yet, but it's coming and he was absolutly amazing, my hats off to him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the first Q, when both teams were deciding they wanted to run, what happened? Turnover after turnover. This is pretty well a half court team. Built to be a half court team. That's why Z and Gooden are in the starting lineup.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Utah, Golden State, Toronto, Phoenix, Miami all have a legit claim to that ***le. And the fact is all these buildings are the same size and there is only so loud you can make the place go. Every where fans are roudy, it makes no real difference.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I dont' know whether to laugh at that or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What Eva Longoria? Their one celebrity fan who's there because she's married to Tony Parker(I do wish they'd stop showing her face every time Parker does something)? She get's pretty into it though I'll give her credit. Same goes for the rest of San Antonio. Their fans aren't too shabby. It'll be loud and the place will be jumping.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What he meant was he came onto a bad team and turned them around in only a matter of a few seasons. Not that they are shockingly horrible now. Although you rate some of your players a little too highly. </p><p></p><p>I don't understand what you see in Pavlovic. I don't. I watch him play and I don't see superstar, I see role player. A guy who gets into some nitty gritty stuff, plays the D and get's you at best about 16pts per night. That's a highly effective player, but I dont' see him as a superstar by any means.</p><p></p><p>Gibson is a wait and see for me. He can fill up the basket real quick and can shoot the three. Where he fits into the cavs team is the question. He'd be more effective if and when the Cavs get a legit pass first point guard. He's looking very good so far though.</p><p></p><p>Ilgauskas to me is just an average centre now. I don't rate him highly at all. A couple of years ago he was sure fire one of the best centres in the East. But now? He's a serviceable defensive guy who can rebound and score a little, especially with that little hook shot.</p><p></p><p>Gooden to me is the next best player on the Cavs. He **** the bed against Detroit, but given the matchups I can understand. He can hit the boards and hit the boards hard, when he wants to. He can make the jump to all star status if he works on his jump shot a little more. He'll get 18 and 10 for a season before his career is out.</p><p></p><p>Donyell Marshall just sits in the corner pocket and waits for people to pass him the ball. He has other parts to his game but he doesn't work on them anymore. He's even starting to miss those three's as well. He's not very good anymore.</p><p></p><p>Larry Hughes is an interesting player. One night he's outstanding and the next you can't even believe it's him. He's a streaky, inconsistent jump shooter. He's just a good solid role player, that will have fluctuating minutes depending on which Larry shows up to play.</p><p></p><p>If you want to talk about Damon Jones as a good player than this conversation is over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fcukernaut, post: 120281"] Hey, it was only an ass raping in NJ!!! :P We've had this discussion they weren't hapless when they played Toronto, they just **** the bed when they played the Cavs, who by the way I was rooting for that round and have been rooting for, I just didn't think LBJ could have taken them as far as he has. That's what we saw over this series is the emmergence of LeBron James. This is what you've waited 4 years for. Sure he may not be a leader just yet, but it's coming and he was absolutly amazing, my hats off to him. In the first Q, when both teams were deciding they wanted to run, what happened? Turnover after turnover. This is pretty well a half court team. Built to be a half court team. That's why Z and Gooden are in the starting lineup. Utah, Golden State, Toronto, Phoenix, Miami all have a legit claim to that ***le. And the fact is all these buildings are the same size and there is only so loud you can make the place go. Every where fans are roudy, it makes no real difference. I dont' know whether to laugh at that or not. What Eva Longoria? Their one celebrity fan who's there because she's married to Tony Parker(I do wish they'd stop showing her face every time Parker does something)? She get's pretty into it though I'll give her credit. Same goes for the rest of San Antonio. Their fans aren't too shabby. It'll be loud and the place will be jumping. What he meant was he came onto a bad team and turned them around in only a matter of a few seasons. Not that they are shockingly horrible now. Although you rate some of your players a little too highly. I don't understand what you see in Pavlovic. I don't. I watch him play and I don't see superstar, I see role player. A guy who gets into some nitty gritty stuff, plays the D and get's you at best about 16pts per night. That's a highly effective player, but I dont' see him as a superstar by any means. Gibson is a wait and see for me. He can fill up the basket real quick and can shoot the three. Where he fits into the cavs team is the question. He'd be more effective if and when the Cavs get a legit pass first point guard. He's looking very good so far though. Ilgauskas to me is just an average centre now. I don't rate him highly at all. A couple of years ago he was sure fire one of the best centres in the East. But now? He's a serviceable defensive guy who can rebound and score a little, especially with that little hook shot. Gooden to me is the next best player on the Cavs. He **** the bed against Detroit, but given the matchups I can understand. He can hit the boards and hit the boards hard, when he wants to. He can make the jump to all star status if he works on his jump shot a little more. He'll get 18 and 10 for a season before his career is out. Donyell Marshall just sits in the corner pocket and waits for people to pass him the ball. He has other parts to his game but he doesn't work on them anymore. He's even starting to miss those three's as well. He's not very good anymore. Larry Hughes is an interesting player. One night he's outstanding and the next you can't even believe it's him. He's a streaky, inconsistent jump shooter. He's just a good solid role player, that will have fluctuating minutes depending on which Larry shows up to play. If you want to talk about Damon Jones as a good player than this conversation is over. [/QUOTE]
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