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<blockquote data-quote="scuubasteve" data-source="post: 146395"><p>There seems to be some serious animosity thrown NZ's way here?</p><p></p><p>How did the NZRU "bribe" the successful world cup bid?</p><p></p><p>Delegates VOTED for the best option?</p><p></p><p>In no way is any other Union benefitting from NZ hosting the 2011 cup.</p><p>So the suggestion of underhanded tactics or bribery would seem to be without substance.</p><p></p><p>Criticising SANZAR for monopolising the hosting rights is interesting in that the only world cups that have been in a single country (not using the selling off of games to garner votes) has been South Africa in 1995, eventually Australia in 2003 and NZ in 2011.</p><p></p><p>I will agree that the NZRU board were idiots for the way they lost themselves (with the help of some shrewd work from the very intelligent John O'Neill) the sub-hosting rights in 2003. And the entire board was sacked accordingly. In their place the put an amazingly talented and highly qualified board (CEO Chris Moller was previously the CEO of New Zealand's largest company, the international dairy giant Fonterra), who have taken the NZRU administration to amazing heights.</p><p></p><p>Regarding attendance and organisation, were any of you guys here for the Lions Tour?</p><p></p><p>Brand spanking new hotels/motels were built all across the country to help meet demands, and similar growth will again occur for 2011.</p><p></p><p>It was a superbly organised event. With sold out crowds across the country! Even my mighty Manawatu team (who got thrashed) managed a sellout crowd of 18,000 from a city of 70,000 people!</p><p></p><p>Looking at the current state of subhosting games to Scotland and Wales (with some very dismal turnouts) I think NZ CAN host a better tournament than 2007.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd love to see Japan hosting a Rugby WC. But how do you think the crowds will turnout when the host nation fails to win a game (Japan in 2007 WC)?</p><p></p><p>Rugby IS growing in Japan, but it pales in significance to Football, and just assuming it will be well supported, because the soccer world cup did ok, is a little naive.</p><p></p><p>People watching the event on TV (or visiting the host nation) will respond far better to passionate, capacity crowds and a nation steeped in Rugby history and culture, rather than a nation virtually foreign to the game.</p><p></p><p>Money is not the be all and end all for sport! The world cup is not just about making as much money for the IRB and just becuase Japan is a lucrative marketplace does not make it the best option.</p><p></p><p>Sure, upfront NZ will lose money, it has far less massive stadiums than France or Japan and its exchange rate is only around 0.55 euros ffs!</p><p></p><p>More importantly though is that the IRB will still receive their hosting fee (so the monetary growth of the game is secured) and that BILLIONS of dollars will pour into the NZ economy solely because of this tournament, which is one of the many reasons the NZ government was so keen to support this event!</p><p></p><p>The fact that the NZRU presentation offered the political support from their nations Prime Minister and passionate speeches from two of the games all time greatest players, from both the amatuer and modern versions of the game (Colin Meads and Tana Umaga), speaks volumes about the commitment and support NZ will throw behind this event.</p><p></p><p>Contrasting this to Japan's business-like, profit orientated, presentation paints a very clear point of difference betweem how these two events would have turned out.</p><p></p><p>Sure, the money would be nice. And popularity for Rugby in Japan would take a boost. But the home team will need to be more competitive and the Japanese people will need to become more aware of the game before Japan can offer a truely succesful bid for the cup.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, of course.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scuubasteve, post: 146395"] There seems to be some serious animosity thrown NZ's way here? How did the NZRU "bribe" the successful world cup bid? Delegates VOTED for the best option? In no way is any other Union benefitting from NZ hosting the 2011 cup. So the suggestion of underhanded tactics or bribery would seem to be without substance. Criticising SANZAR for monopolising the hosting rights is interesting in that the only world cups that have been in a single country (not using the selling off of games to garner votes) has been South Africa in 1995, eventually Australia in 2003 and NZ in 2011. I will agree that the NZRU board were idiots for the way they lost themselves (with the help of some shrewd work from the very intelligent John O'Neill) the sub-hosting rights in 2003. And the entire board was sacked accordingly. In their place the put an amazingly talented and highly qualified board (CEO Chris Moller was previously the CEO of New Zealand's largest company, the international dairy giant Fonterra), who have taken the NZRU administration to amazing heights. Regarding attendance and organisation, were any of you guys here for the Lions Tour? Brand spanking new hotels/motels were built all across the country to help meet demands, and similar growth will again occur for 2011. It was a superbly organised event. With sold out crowds across the country! Even my mighty Manawatu team (who got thrashed) managed a sellout crowd of 18,000 from a city of 70,000 people! Looking at the current state of subhosting games to Scotland and Wales (with some very dismal turnouts) I think NZ CAN host a better tournament than 2007. Personally, I'd love to see Japan hosting a Rugby WC. But how do you think the crowds will turnout when the host nation fails to win a game (Japan in 2007 WC)? Rugby IS growing in Japan, but it pales in significance to Football, and just assuming it will be well supported, because the soccer world cup did ok, is a little naive. People watching the event on TV (or visiting the host nation) will respond far better to passionate, capacity crowds and a nation steeped in Rugby history and culture, rather than a nation virtually foreign to the game. Money is not the be all and end all for sport! The world cup is not just about making as much money for the IRB and just becuase Japan is a lucrative marketplace does not make it the best option. Sure, upfront NZ will lose money, it has far less massive stadiums than France or Japan and its exchange rate is only around 0.55 euros ffs! More importantly though is that the IRB will still receive their hosting fee (so the monetary growth of the game is secured) and that BILLIONS of dollars will pour into the NZ economy solely because of this tournament, which is one of the many reasons the NZ government was so keen to support this event! The fact that the NZRU presentation offered the political support from their nations Prime Minister and passionate speeches from two of the games all time greatest players, from both the amatuer and modern versions of the game (Colin Meads and Tana Umaga), speaks volumes about the commitment and support NZ will throw behind this event. Contrasting this to Japan's business-like, profit orientated, presentation paints a very clear point of difference betweem how these two events would have turned out. Sure, the money would be nice. And popularity for Rugby in Japan would take a boost. But the home team will need to be more competitive and the Japanese people will need to become more aware of the game before Japan can offer a truely succesful bid for the cup. In my opinion, of course. [/QUOTE]
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