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<blockquote data-quote="scuubasteve" data-source="post: 146481"><p>In terms of 2003 crowds:</p><p></p><p>5 games were played at Subiaco Oval averaging <25,000</p><p>4 games at Canberra stadium average <20,000.</p><p>3 games at Dairy Farmers stadium average <20,000.</p><p>3 games at Central Coast Satdium average <19,000</p><p>2 games at WIN Stadium average <17,000</p><p>2 games at Adelaide Oval average = 30,000</p><p>1 game at Aurora Stadium =15,500</p><p></p><p>Across these 20 games thats an average attendance of 21,500.</p><p></p><p>Add to that the 33,000 average crowds across the 5 games at Aussie stadium...and you're worried about NZ stadium not being big enough?</p><p></p><p>Hell, the average for the quarterfinals of 2003 was only 41,000!!!</p><p></p><p>The only real difference is that the last 4 games (both semi's, 3rd/4th playoff and Final) were played at Telstra Stadium and averaged 78,000!!</p><p></p><p>I don't see where 2011 is going to be any less than 2003 apart from the finals? That is after all where Aussie managed to post a profit and NZ will post a loss. The size difference between Telstra Stadium and Eden park will be 20,000 seats. That capacity difference provided an extra $40,000,000 over those 4 final games for the ARU's coffers that it won't for the NZRU.</p><p></p><p>As for Carisbrook, the new stadium will have a permanent capacity of 25,000. And will be expandible (like Westpac Stadium) to 30,000.</p><p></p><p>The Highlanders currently average around 13,000 (only 5,000 less than the Reds) in a stadium that's rubbish and with a team that hasn't come close to the finals for a few seasons.</p><p></p><p>One would assume that a new stadium, closer to the city and university would boost crowds significantly (as it did for the Hurricanes and Wellington Rugby when Westpac Stadium was built).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scuubasteve, post: 146481"] In terms of 2003 crowds: 5 games were played at Subiaco Oval averaging <25,000 4 games at Canberra stadium average <20,000. 3 games at Dairy Farmers stadium average <20,000. 3 games at Central Coast Satdium average <19,000 2 games at WIN Stadium average <17,000 2 games at Adelaide Oval average = 30,000 1 game at Aurora Stadium =15,500 Across these 20 games thats an average attendance of 21,500. Add to that the 33,000 average crowds across the 5 games at Aussie stadium...and you're worried about NZ stadium not being big enough? Hell, the average for the quarterfinals of 2003 was only 41,000!!! The only real difference is that the last 4 games (both semi's, 3rd/4th playoff and Final) were played at Telstra Stadium and averaged 78,000!! I don't see where 2011 is going to be any less than 2003 apart from the finals? That is after all where Aussie managed to post a profit and NZ will post a loss. The size difference between Telstra Stadium and Eden park will be 20,000 seats. That capacity difference provided an extra $40,000,000 over those 4 final games for the ARU's coffers that it won't for the NZRU. As for Carisbrook, the new stadium will have a permanent capacity of 25,000. And will be expandible (like Westpac Stadium) to 30,000. The Highlanders currently average around 13,000 (only 5,000 less than the Reds) in a stadium that's rubbish and with a team that hasn't come close to the finals for a few seasons. One would assume that a new stadium, closer to the city and university would boost crowds significantly (as it did for the Hurricanes and Wellington Rugby when Westpac Stadium was built). [/QUOTE]
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