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<blockquote data-quote="ranger" data-source="post: 368902" data-attributes="member: 40555"><p>Haha is that right mate? i have to say its a surreal experience to have some clown 20000km away trying to patronisingly tell you the meaning of your own culture. He tutai nui tenei, no hea koe e hoa? ko Maori koe? Kaore, haere atu. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are a bi-cultural country. An anthem is a european invention, the haka acknowledges the Maori roots of the country. (We have the New Zealand anthem translated into maori, but thats a bit of a joke really.) They both coincide together as we are a country based on two cultures. What do you suppose NZ do, get the Maori King and the Primeminister to rock it off before each All Black game to see which ethnic group gets acknowleged that week? **** off.</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>It adds to the mystique of the All Blacks that foreign media are so fond of talking about. Do you remember what happened when the All Blacks do the haka in Wales? the crowd wasn't too happy about it. Its a selling point for the hosts. If they didn't want the Haka that much the need not invite the All Blacks to do it in every game contract they send out..</p><p>Also, all this about advantage? its only an advantage if you choose to be intimidated by 22 guys yelling for a bit. If you do then thats your own problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Crowds can encourage their team when they play, theres nothing wrong with that. They don't however, <em>have</em> to respond to every move by the opposition like its a personal attack on them. Thats ridiculous.</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Could you stop calling me sweetie? he takatapui koe? </p><p>Its not so much a racial issue as it is an issue of complete ignorance, which i find quite annoying. </p><p>As for the actual response, i just can't see how you find an entire stadium of people yelling to be an equal response to 22 guys doing their thing. How can you feel pride in that? thats not an answer to a challenge, thats just being a dick. The chances of hearing the haka would be nill, which is a shame. </p><p></p><p>It also takes the ability to respond out of the hands of the players themselves, its quite selfcentered to think that the haka is directed at you way up in the grandstand, and its up to you personally to respond to the challenge for your team. Come off it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ranger, post: 368902, member: 40555"] Haha is that right mate? i have to say its a surreal experience to have some clown 20000km away trying to patronisingly tell you the meaning of your own culture. He tutai nui tenei, no hea koe e hoa? ko Maori koe? Kaore, haere atu. We are a bi-cultural country. An anthem is a european invention, the haka acknowledges the Maori roots of the country. (We have the New Zealand anthem translated into maori, but thats a bit of a joke really.) They both coincide together as we are a country based on two cultures. What do you suppose NZ do, get the Maori King and the Primeminister to rock it off before each All Black game to see which ethnic group gets acknowleged that week? **** off. It adds to the mystique of the All Blacks that foreign media are so fond of talking about. Do you remember what happened when the All Blacks do the haka in Wales? the crowd wasn't too happy about it. Its a selling point for the hosts. If they didn't want the Haka that much the need not invite the All Blacks to do it in every game contract they send out.. Also, all this about advantage? its only an advantage if you choose to be intimidated by 22 guys yelling for a bit. If you do then thats your own problem. Crowds can encourage their team when they play, theres nothing wrong with that. They don't however, [I]have[/I] to respond to every move by the opposition like its a personal attack on them. Thats ridiculous. Could you stop calling me sweetie? he takatapui koe? Its not so much a racial issue as it is an issue of complete ignorance, which i find quite annoying. As for the actual response, i just can't see how you find an entire stadium of people yelling to be an equal response to 22 guys doing their thing. How can you feel pride in that? thats not an answer to a challenge, thats just being a dick. The chances of hearing the haka would be nill, which is a shame. It also takes the ability to respond out of the hands of the players themselves, its quite selfcentered to think that the haka is directed at you way up in the grandstand, and its up to you personally to respond to the challenge for your team. Come off it. [/QUOTE]
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