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<blockquote data-quote="hiz" data-source="post: 368947" data-attributes="member: 21888"><p>nickdnz & ranger - I'm quite happy to have a debate on any issue but when the manner in which it is done is as aggressive and chippy then there is little to be achieved and certainly no enjoyment in it. I think my meaning has been clear throughout and it has never been to cause offence (except with perhaps over use of a certain s word, which was frustration due to what I felt was deliberate, and continued, miscomprehension but even so - apologies). I don't like the tone of this argument so I'm not going to continue it with you. Enjoy your world cup when it comes.</p><p></p><p>lynam1104 - I wasn't complaining about them having two anthems or suggesting that they shouldn't perform the haka - I simply think that if they are going to perform the haka at away grounds, then the home team/fans should take/have some opportunity to respond (and that it should not be in a negative form like booing) as its being the last element prior to kick off does take away an element of home advantage and intensity of the crowd, either that or it should be performed at an earlier stage in the prematch routine. Its a different situation to Ireland as, firstly, you only use both anthems at home and, secondly, it remains within the normal order of anthems - a comparable would be if you were to sing Ahmrain na bhFiann first at an away match, then want to sing Ireland's Call after the home team's anthem - it inevitably changes the dynamic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hiz, post: 368947, member: 21888"] nickdnz & ranger - I'm quite happy to have a debate on any issue but when the manner in which it is done is as aggressive and chippy then there is little to be achieved and certainly no enjoyment in it. I think my meaning has been clear throughout and it has never been to cause offence (except with perhaps over use of a certain s word, which was frustration due to what I felt was deliberate, and continued, miscomprehension but even so - apologies). I don't like the tone of this argument so I'm not going to continue it with you. Enjoy your world cup when it comes. lynam1104 - I wasn't complaining about them having two anthems or suggesting that they shouldn't perform the haka - I simply think that if they are going to perform the haka at away grounds, then the home team/fans should take/have some opportunity to respond (and that it should not be in a negative form like booing) as its being the last element prior to kick off does take away an element of home advantage and intensity of the crowd, either that or it should be performed at an earlier stage in the prematch routine. Its a different situation to Ireland as, firstly, you only use both anthems at home and, secondly, it remains within the normal order of anthems - a comparable would be if you were to sing Ahmrain na bhFiann first at an away match, then want to sing Ireland's Call after the home team's anthem - it inevitably changes the dynamic. [/QUOTE]
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