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[November Tests 2017 EOYT] Ireland vs. South Africa (11/11/2017)
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<blockquote data-quote="AM_Bokke" data-source="post: 878577" data-attributes="member: 76028"><p>Well, I think I called this game 27-24 to Ireland. </p><p></p><p>Ireland first - </p><p></p><p>They should've scored more points early. They scored 17 points with Murray and Sexton on. Considering that they were playing against monkeys wearing boxing gloves that is not enough. The one try that they scored was also from a garbage mistake from SA. This is supposed to be the best team that Ireland has ever had and I do not think that they are very good compared to England, New Zealand, Australia, maybe even Scotland, and classic French sides. </p><p></p><p>OK South Africa -</p><p></p><p>Let's try not to over react too much. Boks were clearly nervous playing away in the 1st half. The try they conceded was from a dog's breakfast. Other than that try they held it together from a systems standpoint quite well. Individually not so much. The game was already over by the time Ireland scored more points in the 2nd half. A closer game in the 1st half would be a different game in the 2nd half.</p><p></p><p>Hold judgement 'til the end of the tour. Ireland was always going to be the toughest game and I think that SA psyched themselves out a bit. At this phase in the Boks development judge them on the response over the next few weeks. </p><p></p><p>There are no easy answers for the Boks, SA rugby and by extension World Rugby. The professional era coupled with SA's poor economic performance are the main drivers of the team's decline. </p><p></p><p>Fire AC? </p><p></p><p>Who wants the job? You think Rassie wants to deal with all of the day-to-day stress and pressure? No he doesn't. Ackerman? You can say that hiring AC over him was a mistake at the time but he doesn't want the job now. An international coach? Who? And is SA rugby OK with that? SA has well developed rugby structures. The union should respect and use them. </p><p></p><p>Get rid of the 30 cap rule? </p><p></p><p>How will these players be managed? The Rugby Chmspionship is outside the international window. Clubs that sign SH players expect them to take their club jobs first. If there is no cap rule there is nothing keeping high quality players in SA. Without high quality players who is going to care about Super Rugby in SA? If no one cares about Super Rugby, and revenues decline in accordance with the audience, how will provinces pay coaches and develop players? I think that the cap rule should be increased to 60 like Aus. The Springboks are a decent enterprise and can pay OK. If a player wants to play for the Boks then they should play in SA. Bismarck, Steyn and the like don't want to play for the Boks right now so let them be and stop treating them like a solution. It is both ignorant of the core problems and unfair to them as individuals. </p><p></p><p>Go back to a forward centric playing style?</p><p></p><p>The Boks could do this and try and compete like England and Ireland. BUT, they will lose to their direct SH rivals NZ and AUS. NH teams regularly lose to them as well. I think that SA are on the right track, it's the fans that lack patience. </p><p></p><p>The old players need to be let go, overseas selection will kill SA rugby in the medium and long term and there is no immeadiate option to AC. The Boks in an awkward stage and everyone just needs to understand that. </p><p></p><p>Get behind your team!!! Like Ireland and Scotland fans have done for years!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AM_Bokke, post: 878577, member: 76028"] Well, I think I called this game 27-24 to Ireland. Ireland first - They should've scored more points early. They scored 17 points with Murray and Sexton on. Considering that they were playing against monkeys wearing boxing gloves that is not enough. The one try that they scored was also from a garbage mistake from SA. This is supposed to be the best team that Ireland has ever had and I do not think that they are very good compared to England, New Zealand, Australia, maybe even Scotland, and classic French sides. OK South Africa - Let's try not to over react too much. Boks were clearly nervous playing away in the 1st half. The try they conceded was from a dog's breakfast. Other than that try they held it together from a systems standpoint quite well. Individually not so much. The game was already over by the time Ireland scored more points in the 2nd half. A closer game in the 1st half would be a different game in the 2nd half. Hold judgement 'til the end of the tour. Ireland was always going to be the toughest game and I think that SA psyched themselves out a bit. At this phase in the Boks development judge them on the response over the next few weeks. There are no easy answers for the Boks, SA rugby and by extension World Rugby. The professional era coupled with SA's poor economic performance are the main drivers of the team's decline. Fire AC? Who wants the job? You think Rassie wants to deal with all of the day-to-day stress and pressure? No he doesn't. Ackerman? You can say that hiring AC over him was a mistake at the time but he doesn't want the job now. An international coach? Who? And is SA rugby OK with that? SA has well developed rugby structures. The union should respect and use them. Get rid of the 30 cap rule? How will these players be managed? The Rugby Chmspionship is outside the international window. Clubs that sign SH players expect them to take their club jobs first. If there is no cap rule there is nothing keeping high quality players in SA. Without high quality players who is going to care about Super Rugby in SA? If no one cares about Super Rugby, and revenues decline in accordance with the audience, how will provinces pay coaches and develop players? I think that the cap rule should be increased to 60 like Aus. The Springboks are a decent enterprise and can pay OK. If a player wants to play for the Boks then they should play in SA. Bismarck, Steyn and the like don't want to play for the Boks right now so let them be and stop treating them like a solution. It is both ignorant of the core problems and unfair to them as individuals. Go back to a forward centric playing style? The Boks could do this and try and compete like England and Ireland. BUT, they will lose to their direct SH rivals NZ and AUS. NH teams regularly lose to them as well. I think that SA are on the right track, it's the fans that lack patience. The old players need to be let go, overseas selection will kill SA rugby in the medium and long term and there is no immeadiate option to AC. The Boks in an awkward stage and everyone just needs to understand that. Get behind your team!!! Like Ireland and Scotland fans have done for years!!! [/QUOTE]
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