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Ospreys v Calvisano - Pool 3
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<blockquote data-quote="danit" data-source="post: 94003"><p>don't think it's a good point</p><p></p><p>HCup should be played by less teams (16 or 20) with more matches: for example, 2 pools, 10 teams each, 9 games per team (stop the home-away round..), 6 french, 6 english, the best 6 from CL, 1 italian (ok, just to keep the movment alive...) and 1 more to choose in some other way (barrage or the challenge cup winner or the 7th french or english...)</p><p></p><p>domestic leagues in England and France should be shortened</p><p></p><p>this way you get a real top european league, to compare to the SH Super 14</p><p></p><p>about the italian teams, actually there's no team who could even get a losing bonus point, not even in any home game, not even playing with the best XV: too many italian good players are now performing mostly in France and England and in Italy the (few) real good players play for 10 different professional sides, so no way to have a competitive one</p><p></p><p>Viadana or Gran Parma couldn't do something different from Treviso or Calvisano, they can't compete so they play with youngster squads: this way they don't lose by 25, they lose by 50, but at the end no difference </p><p></p><p>the problem is that in last years the italian rugby union tried to arrange a new system on provincial basis, no more than 4 professional sides (irish way managed by the union or welsh style managed by top teams), but the clubs firlmly refused, so now the situation is gettin' worse 'cause other countries are developing the system and Italy is completely stopped: if things don't change in a few time italian sides will get back away from professionalism and we will be like argies (50 best players playing abroad and, maybe, a good national team), but in the heart of Europe...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="danit, post: 94003"] don't think it's a good point HCup should be played by less teams (16 or 20) with more matches: for example, 2 pools, 10 teams each, 9 games per team (stop the home-away round..), 6 french, 6 english, the best 6 from CL, 1 italian (ok, just to keep the movment alive...) and 1 more to choose in some other way (barrage or the challenge cup winner or the 7th french or english...) domestic leagues in England and France should be shortened this way you get a real top european league, to compare to the SH Super 14 about the italian teams, actually there's no team who could even get a losing bonus point, not even in any home game, not even playing with the best XV: too many italian good players are now performing mostly in France and England and in Italy the (few) real good players play for 10 different professional sides, so no way to have a competitive one Viadana or Gran Parma couldn't do something different from Treviso or Calvisano, they can't compete so they play with youngster squads: this way they don't lose by 25, they lose by 50, but at the end no difference the problem is that in last years the italian rugby union tried to arrange a new system on provincial basis, no more than 4 professional sides (irish way managed by the union or welsh style managed by top teams), but the clubs firlmly refused, so now the situation is gettin' worse 'cause other countries are developing the system and Italy is completely stopped: if things don't change in a few time italian sides will get back away from professionalism and we will be like argies (50 best players playing abroad and, maybe, a good national team), but in the heart of Europe... [/QUOTE]
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