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<blockquote data-quote="danit" data-source="post: 94017"><p>I know, I know... unfortunately... don't think there would be too many meaningless matches if the best 4 in each pool would qualify for the knock out stages... btw this is just my opinion, just speculation, there's nothing really planned this way, I know ERC are thinking to change HCup format in 2008/9, but I dunno wich way</p><p></p><p></p><p>well, I understand we're going OT, but...</p><p></p><p>Italy is not England or France... </p><p></p><p>a population of 56mln and just 45000 registred players (like Wales, half of Ireland)</p><p></p><p>a poor tv coverage: no HCup on tv this year!! Sky IT pays about 500.000 euros to the league to show 2 Super10 games per week, in France LNR gets actually 19 mln euros for the Top14 by Canal+</p><p></p><p>not too much money invested by sponsor and clubs: the richest italian team (Treviso) has a budget of about 3mln euros, much less than any french Top14 team (Narbonne: 5.8 mln euros last year)</p><p></p><p>so, how can you afford 10 professional teams? you need to concentrate players, staff, money, sponsors, fans...</p><p></p><p>I don't think provincial sides are not working in Scotland or Wales: I know there are many discussions, but welsh teams are quite successful in CL and have good results in HCup, scottish sides much less but they can easily beat any italian side, if the Reivers have beaten Parma 35-3 on HCup round 1...</p><p></p><p>think about that: one of the most important non-professional scottish sides, Glasgow Hawks, came to Italy last year and played vs. Capitolina Rome, a team that was playing in 2nd division and now is playng Super10 (8th, actually): Rome won 47-26 scoring 7 tries</p><p>that's because scottish best players just play in one of 3 professional teams, they are not divided among 10 unuseful teams, some of wich continuously fight against bakrupcy dangers...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="danit, post: 94017"] I know, I know... unfortunately... don't think there would be too many meaningless matches if the best 4 in each pool would qualify for the knock out stages... btw this is just my opinion, just speculation, there's nothing really planned this way, I know ERC are thinking to change HCup format in 2008/9, but I dunno wich way well, I understand we're going OT, but... Italy is not England or France... a population of 56mln and just 45000 registred players (like Wales, half of Ireland) a poor tv coverage: no HCup on tv this year!! Sky IT pays about 500.000 euros to the league to show 2 Super10 games per week, in France LNR gets actually 19 mln euros for the Top14 by Canal+ not too much money invested by sponsor and clubs: the richest italian team (Treviso) has a budget of about 3mln euros, much less than any french Top14 team (Narbonne: 5.8 mln euros last year) so, how can you afford 10 professional teams? you need to concentrate players, staff, money, sponsors, fans... I don't think provincial sides are not working in Scotland or Wales: I know there are many discussions, but welsh teams are quite successful in CL and have good results in HCup, scottish sides much less but they can easily beat any italian side, if the Reivers have beaten Parma 35-3 on HCup round 1... think about that: one of the most important non-professional scottish sides, Glasgow Hawks, came to Italy last year and played vs. Capitolina Rome, a team that was playing in 2nd division and now is playng Super10 (8th, actually): Rome won 47-26 scoring 7 tries that's because scottish best players just play in one of 3 professional teams, they are not divided among 10 unuseful teams, some of wich continuously fight against bakrupcy dangers... [/QUOTE]
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