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Players who could participate in their 4th(or 5th?) RWC in 2015.

Little Guy said:
Wilko is still playing he's a 1999 England squad member...wow there are more guys than I thought lingering around from 1999, none of them would be first choice players by any stretch but it's entirely possible one of them could get an emergency call up, especially Contepomi and Bergamasco.
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could you imagine if he was selected for 2015, England do well, and win the RWC at home with Wilko putting on a show in the final ?! he'd be heralded as the best player of all time ! : p


TRF_Draggs said:
Parra was 22 in 2011. Could be a possibility.
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right ! the "little general"...

sifplay said:
Brad Thorne is going to play in the 2023 WC as well for Japan
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loool
 
big ginger 8 said:
Despite what he's said I'd still back BO'D to make it to 2015 as long as he doesn't get any serious injuries this year.
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mmmm...I don't think so. But maybe, who knows....but he's just too banged up I'm afraid.

P.S.: oh and uh...1922: date Murnau's Nosferatu comes out...
 
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If Odriscoll plays until 2014, he will stay until 2015.
I already fear for his quality of life later on, seen him take sme nasty bumps over the past few years.
 
big ginger 8 said:
Yes because one more season after this one is that exact scenario.
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A World Cup season essentially entails another 18 months of rugby. You'd play an entire domestic season as well as a hell of a lot of physical work through the summer. At 36, and the with his style of play and commitment in defense I believe his well being is something to be legitimately concerned about. One need only look at Pat Spillane to see the damage that playing past the point you should can do. The guy can hardly walk, and rugby is a much more physical business than GAA. (I'm aware of the advancements that have been made in physical care for players, but you cannot get away from the fact that he takes a beating every time he puts himself on the pitch.)
 
TRF_Draggs said:
If Odriscoll plays until 2014, he will stay until 2015.
I already fear for his quality of life later on, seen him take some nasty bumps over the past few years.
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I agree and the other problem is that he may tarnish the superb reputation he has by continuing and being shown up.........his body must be a wreck and not sure he can keep up with the physical demands of another H Cup and more International rugby as inevtiably he will be called upon for....... never mind the Rabo for which he will be used sparingly as befits a wonderful classy guy and player! For you sake, BOD, leave even now for your health sake and to leave us with some humongeous memories!! But, if you do go on, good luck and health.............!!
 
Feicarsinn said:
A World Cup season essentially entails another 18 months of rugby. You'd play an entire domestic season as well as a hell of a lot of physical work through the summer. At 36, and the with his style of play and commitment in defense I believe his well being is something to be legitimately concerned about. One need only look at Pat Spillane to see the damage that playing past the point you should can do. The guy can hardly walk, and rugby is a much more physical business than GAA. (I'm aware of the advancements that have been made in physical care for players, but you cannot get away from the fact that he takes a beating every time he puts himself on the pitch.)
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Hence my bit about injuries in the initial post. If managed correctly it's doable. Of course I want him to prioritise his health but if he was going to do that he'd be retired by know. With his level of competitiveness I can't see him retiring if he lasts this season ok with the WC just around the corner.
 
TRF_Draggs said:
If Odriscoll plays until 2014, he will stay until 2015.
I already fear for his quality of life later on, seen him take sme nasty bumps over the past few years.
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He needs to retire soon on his own terms before he is no longer worth a place in the side or gets one concussion too many (I thought he would quit after the Lions tour to be honest as he was getting battered this last season). We've seen how many of the Irish press/fans throw a tantrum when their favourites get dropped recently, and it would make life needlessly and unfairly difficult for both Schmidt and the replacement if he were to keep playing beyond the point where Schmidt would drop him.

Having said that though, out of the potential players who could make a 5th World Cup since 1999, he would be the most likely. Mauro Bergamasco could but is only on the outer fringes of the Italy squad these days so unlikely.

For the 2019 RWC, I think we could see Sergio Parisse perhaps still going aged 36, but the most likely would be Todd Clever who could play in 2019 as he hasn't had to endure the physical draining seasons of the Top 14 and he rarely gets injured.
 
psychic duck said:
He needs to retire soon on his own terms before he is no longer worth a place in the side or gets one concussion too many (I thought he would quit after the Lions tour to be honest as he was getting battered this last season). We've seen how many of the Irish press/fans throw a tantrum when their favourites get dropped recently, and it would make life needlessly and unfairly difficult for both Schmidt and the replacement if he were to keep playing beyond the point where Schmidt would drop him.

Having said that though, out of the potential players who could make a 5th World Cup since 1999, he would be the most likely. Mauro Bergamasco could but is only on the outer fringes of the Italy squad these days so unlikely.

For the 2019 RWC, I think we could see Sergio Parisse perhaps still going aged 36, but the most likely would be Todd Clever who could play in 2019 as he hasn't had to endure the physical draining seasons of the Top 14 and he rarely gets injured.
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Thisisamerrugby, one of the best sources around the Eagles was actually wondering on his blog whether it's time to drop Clever soon, possibly right after 2015 or even before(that was admittedly very unlikely), the US, is similar to Canada in that they are producing back rowers out of their butts but struggling to put together a front five. I think Parisse is very likely to go to 5 RWC's barring a major injury. It might be his swan song.

I would have thought the Pacific Islanders would have had more than that hand full of 4th RWC possiblities, interesting to see how many older players Italy has hanging around, in a bizzaro circumstance they could have more guys playing in their 4th RWC than the rest of the tournament's teams combined.
 
Little Guy said:
Thisisamerrugby, one of the best sources around the Eagles was actually wondering on his blog whether it's time to drop Clever soon, possibly right after 2015 or even before(that was admittedly very unlikely), the US, is similar to Canada in that they are producing back rowers out of their butts but struggling to put together a front five. I think Parisse is very likely to go to 5 RWC's barring a major injury. It might be his swan song.

I would have thought the Pacific Islanders would have had more than that hand full of 4th RWC possiblities, interesting to see how many older players Italy has hanging around, in a bizzaro circumstance they could have more guys playing in their 4th RWC than the rest of the tournament's teams combined.
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Italy have had largely the same side for about a decade now, there are still several players left from 2003-05 from when Kirwan was in charge. People were praising them lots of late but it's the same very experienced players, in my opinion looking longer term I think they could suffer a spate of retirements/declines at once from some of these players and have a lean few years. If you look at their squad, they haven't produced a real star of a youngster for a long while now, there are decent ones but none who are going to scare the big 4 6N sides or the RC sides. Their youth sides are more the level of Tier 2 sides as well, I query how well the youth system is functioning there.
 
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Why doesn't B'OD have breaks from rugby, like Carter and Mccaw have been doing? He could maybe sit out of this 6N and some of the Pro12 games, have a prolonged summer break, perhaps a small christmas rest in 2014, then come back hard in January 2015.
 
j'nuh said:
Why doesn't B'OD have breaks from rugby, like Carter and Mccaw have been doing? He could maybe sit out of this 6N and some of the Pro12 games, have a prolonged summer break, perhaps a small christmas rest in 2014, then come back hard in January 2015.
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McCaw is two years younger and Carter 4 years...........................too late now!
 
An alternative to doing what McCaw/Carter have done, is to go down the route that an increasing amount of players are taking which is take a season in Japan, where you can earn good money and take a half rest playing less games per season in a less brutal league.

Fourie du Preez had a torrid year of injuries in 2010 and 2011, but went to Japan apparently in order to give his body a break for a bit whilst getting good money. Jerome Kaino has taken a break and is likely to come back by all accounts for 2015 RWC as well. JP Pietersen and Richard Kahui are two others who have followed this route recently as well.
 
Friend of TRF and fromer poster Melhor Time was lurking the thread and sent me a list of players who are still active though some only at a club level.....

Still playing are: Onozawa (Jap)
Tindall, Shaw, Wilkinson (Eng)
Danie Rossouw, Schalk Burger, Bakies Botha (RSA)
Maurie Fa'asavalu, Mahonri Schwalger, Sailosi Tagicakibau (Sam)
Suka Hufanga, Kisi Pulu (Ton)
Hines (Sco) at club level
BOD, POC (Irl)
Koyamaibole (Fiji)
Merab Kvirikashvili, Malkhaz Urjukashvili (Geo)
Carter, Nonu, Muliaina, Mccaw, Mealamu, Rokocoko (NZ)
A Jones, Jenkins (Wal)
Cudmore, Prichard (Canada)
Mirco Bergamasco, Parisse, Masi Canale, Castrogiovanni, Mauro Bergamasco (Ita)
Capó (Uru)
Albacete, Hernández (Arg)
Harinordoquy, Michalak, Rougerie, Yachvini, Traille, Poitrenaud (Fra)
 
Little Guy said:
Friend of TRF and fromer poster Melhor Time was lurking the thread and sent me a list of players who are still active though some only at a club level.....

Still playing are: Onozawa (Jap)
Tindall, Shaw, Wilkinson (Eng)
Danie Rossouw, Schalk Burger, Bakies Botha (RSA)
Maurie Fa'asavalu, Mahonri Schwalger, Sailosi Tagicakibau (Sam)
Suka Hufanga, Kisi Pulu (Ton)
Hines (Sco) at club level
BOD, POC (Irl)
Koyamaibole (Fiji)
Merab Kvirikashvili, Malkhaz Urjukashvili (Geo)
Carter, Nonu, Muliaina, Mccaw, Mealamu, Rokocoko (NZ)
A Jones, Jenkins (Wal)
Cudmore, Prichard (Canada)
Mirco Bergamasco, Parisse, Masi Canale, Castrogiovanni, Mauro Bergamasco (Ita)
Capó (Uru)
Albacete, Hernández (Arg)
Harinordoquy, Michalak, Rougerie, Yachvini, Traille, Poitrenaud (Fra)
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random thought... you could make an amazing team from those players..
 

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