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<blockquote data-quote="Which Tyler" data-source="post: 1058254" data-attributes="member: 73592"><p>I've no doubt that he's a great galvanising influence on his team, especially off-field, and to a degree on-field too. Mental fortitude does have a value.</p><p>He's just a player who's never been as good as he was protrayed to be (and now, TBF, isn't as bad as he's made out to be), and is an absolutely terrible communicator with referees.</p><p></p><p>Of course, part of his problem is that he learned how to play in the international spotlight, and was given a pass for all his mistakes because he kicks goals competently and is aggressive in the tackle - like a mini-St.Jonny. It's just that, unlike Jonny, his kicking was merely competent-international rather than outstanding-international, his tackling was aggressive, but was often in the wrong place to even attempt a tackle. Beyond that, his pasing was fairly pedestrian (especially L=>R) and he showed no particular vision or reading of the game - but was absolutely superb in knowing the coach's playbook for that part of the pitch in that 5 minute window.</p><p></p><p>Initially he was a poor player at international level, but over the course of 60-odd caps he rose to the rank of competent FH at international level. I'm not convinced he was ever the best option available for England though. Then he shifted to IC which has been a real problem for England since Greenwood retired; and... he was only ever the best option available because Manu was always injured and Slade steadfastly refused to play in his best position.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Which Tyler, post: 1058254, member: 73592"] I've no doubt that he's a great galvanising influence on his team, especially off-field, and to a degree on-field too. Mental fortitude does have a value. He's just a player who's never been as good as he was protrayed to be (and now, TBF, isn't as bad as he's made out to be), and is an absolutely terrible communicator with referees. Of course, part of his problem is that he learned how to play in the international spotlight, and was given a pass for all his mistakes because he kicks goals competently and is aggressive in the tackle - like a mini-St.Jonny. It's just that, unlike Jonny, his kicking was merely competent-international rather than outstanding-international, his tackling was aggressive, but was often in the wrong place to even attempt a tackle. Beyond that, his pasing was fairly pedestrian (especially L=>R) and he showed no particular vision or reading of the game - but was absolutely superb in knowing the coach's playbook for that part of the pitch in that 5 minute window. Initially he was a poor player at international level, but over the course of 60-odd caps he rose to the rank of competent FH at international level. I'm not convinced he was ever the best option available for England though. Then he shifted to IC which has been a real problem for England since Greenwood retired; and... he was only ever the best option available because Manu was always injured and Slade steadfastly refused to play in his best position. [/QUOTE]
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