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<blockquote data-quote="Mcfadden" data-source="post: 733993" data-attributes="member: 72865"><p>That is true, and I am generalizing. As with anything, there are sane people out there. There are guns rights advocates who do favor the most basic of background checks and safety training and tutorials. But the notion that Alex Jones is some sad git in the corner with serious delusions, who only speaks for himself, is wrong. He has a massive following, and messages which are completely unreasonable and parroted all the time. It's not just a few bad apples. It's widespread</p><p></p><p>What about the NRA commentator, Billy Johnson, who came out and said that children handling a firearm should be as necessary as reading and writing in order to advance to the next grade? </p><p></p><p>Then there's people like Jim Cooley who think carrying a 100 round AR-15 around an airport is actually okay, and not a big deal. Even if your state had open-carry laws, don't you think someone would have to be a few sandwhiches short of a picnic to not draw some basic boundaries? Sorry, but if you think your right to do anything takes priority over the safety of yourself and others then you are bonkers.</p><p></p><p>Also James Yeager, a CEO in Tennesse who said about gun control "if that happens it's going to spark a Civil War, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot. I'm not gonna put up with it. If it goes one inch further, I'm gonna start killing people." Then he later backtracked and said he wouldn't kill anyone.........unless absolutely necessary. </p><p></p><p>I get that you can can pull up crazy arguments for anything. But these are stories that I can remember, and have found within the space of about 10 minutes. They happen every day, or every other day over in the States. A lot of those advocates, from CEOs, to the everyday working man, to the NRA itself are really under this illusion that they're in a movie, and somebody out there is going to take away their freedom. Either that or a Zombie apocalypse (and no, that isn't a joke. There are stories that have been done on that too.)</p><p></p><p>And then there are a lot of ones who are sane, but are content with lies, mischaracterizations, fear mongering and contributing to the issue that is money in politics (which is a systemic issue rather than their fault admittedly, but they certainly engage with it more than a lot of institutions).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mcfadden, post: 733993, member: 72865"] That is true, and I am generalizing. As with anything, there are sane people out there. There are guns rights advocates who do favor the most basic of background checks and safety training and tutorials. But the notion that Alex Jones is some sad git in the corner with serious delusions, who only speaks for himself, is wrong. He has a massive following, and messages which are completely unreasonable and parroted all the time. It's not just a few bad apples. It's widespread What about the NRA commentator, Billy Johnson, who came out and said that children handling a firearm should be as necessary as reading and writing in order to advance to the next grade? Then there's people like Jim Cooley who think carrying a 100 round AR-15 around an airport is actually okay, and not a big deal. Even if your state had open-carry laws, don't you think someone would have to be a few sandwhiches short of a picnic to not draw some basic boundaries? Sorry, but if you think your right to do anything takes priority over the safety of yourself and others then you are bonkers. Also James Yeager, a CEO in Tennesse who said about gun control "if that happens it's going to spark a Civil War, and I'll be glad to fire the first shot. I'm not gonna put up with it. If it goes one inch further, I'm gonna start killing people." Then he later backtracked and said he wouldn't kill anyone.........unless absolutely necessary. I get that you can can pull up crazy arguments for anything. But these are stories that I can remember, and have found within the space of about 10 minutes. They happen every day, or every other day over in the States. A lot of those advocates, from CEOs, to the everyday working man, to the NRA itself are really under this illusion that they're in a movie, and somebody out there is going to take away their freedom. Either that or a Zombie apocalypse (and no, that isn't a joke. There are stories that have been done on that too.) And then there are a lot of ones who are sane, but are content with lies, mischaracterizations, fear mongering and contributing to the issue that is money in politics (which is a systemic issue rather than their fault admittedly, but they certainly engage with it more than a lot of institutions). [/QUOTE]
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